this is not about opinions Quirilo, it's about a systematic policy of defamation and disinformation, in my case, I was accused of being an austrian economist, while i am in opposition to it, david is accused of doing his commons work for political gain, allianzia solidaria in quito, the best coop we've seen in 6 months of study, was accused etc .. etc ... it is the standard operating procedure of willi and it degrades the culture of discourse stick to arguments, don't use freedom of speech to systematically attack the personal integrity of your brothers and comrades, you are free to do this, but not here, refrain from personal attacks, and there is absolute no issue of staying on the list On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Quiliro Ordóñez Baca < [email protected]> wrote:
I feel someone's exclusion because they speak their mind out is the worst kind of censorship. The worst insult a person can suffer is censorship. I think that it is only seen where people of low cultural level stay. It is fear of being disapproved which motivates censorship. It is low self esteem. "Get out or I will kick you out" is a very bully kind of attitude.
I was asking to become part of this list. But censorship does not make me feel there is a neutral point of view or an academic environment but a dogmatic one. Please ignore my petitions to subscribe to this list.
El 21/08/14 a las 20:51, willi uebelherr escibió:
Dear Kevin,
i respect your doing and can accept it. I am new on your list, we never find a clear base of our principles and vision. So, what can i do on this list? To look for interest contribution i can use the archive.
With the request from Michel i saw, this is a private space from Michel and, maybe, you have to act like an employee. I don't understand the backsides. Gordon talked about. You can also shorten the period. This is my last mail to the list.
3 persons vote for exclusion, 2 persons was not sure, 1 person against. Maybe, some people vote silent for exclusion. They have no power to speak open.
I know, this is a personal conflict from Michel with me since the FLOK project. Never i attacked a person on this list. I have criticized, have questioned. And this i always do it. And i like people, they do the same. I hate people without agreement of thinking and doing. I know, many people don't like this style. They want to speak around.
many greetings, willi Popayan, Colombia
Am 21/08/2014 um 20:21 schrieb Kevin Flanagan:
Dear Willi,
I do not make decisions to unsubscribe people from the list unilaterally. Many people have complained both publicly and privately about your behaviour. Personal attacks are not acceptable.
In the case of this mailing list. Where an individual is not willing to abide by the culture and norms of the list then s/he are welcome to unsubscribe and move on.
I am offering you here a opportunity to resolve this conflict. Here are the terms. It's really quite simple.
If in the next 24 hours from the time of this email you are willing to reconsider your behavior on this list, apologize for that behavior publicly on list and will refrain from further personal attacks in future. Then you are welcome to stay.
If these terms are not acceptable then I offer you 24hrs from the time of this email to unsubscribe. If you have not unsubscribed in that time I will exercise my responsibilities as list moderator and will do it for you.
Regards
Kevin Flanagan P2P Foundation Mailing List Moderator
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