Agree! It’s time for citizens to take back their own govts. At some point-world govt may become feasible. For now-there are too many variations-some permanent- in resource, climate & language problems-as well as historical, religious & tribal grievances. It seems rational to me that you can’t skip a step until you work through a period where people can control their own govts. Then govts behave in a civil manner to discuss what is common ground and what is not. In the US-our Fed govt usurped the states & localities which has made real democracy weaker. The UN is a joke. In a previous exchange re Libertarians-I was trying to point out that until you can make democracy work within a nation-you can’t make further progress. Both Left & Right want to control the end result. You can’t do that if you really believe in democracy. When illegals are welcomed in the US-what do you think happens to the responsibility quotient of the Mexican people and their President?? From: Dante-Gabryell Monson Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 3:54 PM To: P2P Foundation mailing list Cc: [email protected] Subject: [P2P-F] article suggesting "the 99% movement",dating from "april 2010" via the link to the article you shared, I found this one http://pubrecord.org/special-to-the-public-record/7328/abiding-american-citi... Also note the parallels between what is happenning in the US and what more and more may look like a "strategy" used in Europe, including a top Goldman Sachs Executive appointed as next European Central Bank director http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Draghi Is It Time for Law Abiding American Citizens to Stop Paying Their Taxes and Start a New Government? By David DeGraw The Public Record Apr 4th, 2010 excerpts : "Time for a Second American Revolution – The 99% Movement" On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote: if true, then it is very worrying ... http://ampedstatus.org/shocking-censorship-at-google-news-and-the-future-of-... -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation