in response to another letter: I think ows produces a political commons and does that pretty much in a standard peer production way, they have a commons, zuccoti park, they have the general assembly and different substructures, but which do not command and control the movement, for example, the finance working group, which looks for money, they have sophisticated provisioning systems the last three are equivalent to the for-benefit associations in open source, finally, they have an enterpreneurial coalition, such as the ows street vendor association, I have documented this through http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:OccupyWallStreet, in detail, so, ows produces 'politics', and it has governance, it has no clear property, but the commons aspect, i.e. it can be used and remixed, would cover that this is quite illuminating, http://p2pfoundation.net/Occupy_Wall_Street_API -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens