---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Facebook <[email protected]> Date: Sun, May 8, 2011 at 2:25 PM Subject: Edward Miller commented on your link. To: Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> facebook<http://www.facebook.com/n/?mbauwens%2Fposts%2F180828791966022&mid=43042a4G1f7c632bGe880e85Ge&bcode=d07RvcmU&n_m=michelsub2004%40gmail.com> Hi Michel, Edward Miller commented on your link. Edward wrote: "Ah. So you are referring to demurrage only, and not a Tobin Tax or the like? Doing so would require that the demurrage currency be made official legal tender, and likely even something that it is impossible to compete with. Yet, I'm not quite sure how demurrage would change things substantatively since we already have inflationary money and the banks who lend interest simply take this into account and peg their interest rates to a certain amount above inflation. ALL capital allows you to make compound interest. In truth, there are only really two factors of production: human activity and land. Capital is merely stored-up labor. The P2P Foundation has mentioned ideas like Open Source Ecology and self-replicating 3D printers. If you make a 3D printer and sell the produce, and then use the proceeds to buy more 3D printers... that is EXACTLY the same thing as interest. Indeed, by the definitions of political economy, interest is a return on capital (stored-up labor). Loans are no different. The problem with the rich is not that they make loans. It is that they have all these unjust privileges from the government. Their most important privilege is their eternal sovereignties over land. All the other privileges, like patents and whatnot, merely rob you first.... but the Land Monopoly is the "Robber Who Takes All That is Left." If we removed patents without removing the Land Monopoly, the rents from land would increase by exactly the amount of productivity gained from the abolition of patents." See the comment thread<http://www.facebook.com/n/?mbauwens%2Fposts%2F180828791966022&mid=43042a4G1f7c632bGe880e85Ge&bcode=d07RvcmU&n_m=michelsub2004%40gmail.com> Reply to this email to comment on this link. Thanks, The Facebook Team See Comment<http://www.facebook.com/n/?mbauwens%2Fposts%2F180828791966022&mid=43042a4G1f7c632bGe880e85Ge&bcode=d07RvcmU&n_m=michelsub2004%40gmail.com>The message was sent to [email protected]. If you don't want to receive these emails from Facebook in the future or have your email address used for friend suggestions, you can unsubscribe<http://www.facebook.com/o.php?k=c05bf5&u=528245547&mid=43042a4G1f7c632bGe880e85Ge>. Facebook, Inc. P.O. Box 10005, Palo Alto, CA 94303 -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens