Hi everyone, I forgot to attach the webpage of City Think Space who led the Kokstad/Franklin integrated sustainable development plan. Here it is: http://citythinkspace.com/kokstad-franklin-integrated-sustainable-developmen... This page provides an overview of the spatial design concepts applied. Kindest Gien On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>wrote:
Hi Mark,
As far as I understand it the original western democracies, and especially the U.S., were designed as Republics, and explicitely anti-democratic, i.e. designed to defend the power of the enlightened property owners against the 'mob'. All the more real elements of democracy, such as universal suffrage of all genders, were imposed later through long-standing social mobilizations ... The Electoral College is just one example of an technique specifically aimed at not having the people directly decide ...
Michel
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Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:05:04 -0600 From: Mark Janssen <[email protected]>
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On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:19 AM, George Dafermos - TBM <[email protected]> wrote:
i suppose that was probably meant as a joke, right? x,
Hah, I guess I should have clarified. I mean "nominally" or legally it has a government of, by, and for the People since the Constitution remains the "highest" Law of the United States. Such as it is, if one were to take the issues to court on where it was failing, the courts would have to uphold this standard and ideal. The fact that the People have let their government deteriorate through neglect, and the void of power, left thereby, be filled by those with less noble ideals is a shame. But, nonetheless, I don't think it can copy Greece's model of democracy, where it was supposed to be an indivisible unit.
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