I finally understood this philosophy: 1: Me, me, me and mine. 2: If A fucks over B, C can rightfully fuck over them both: survival of the fittest. 3: Let God sort them out. On 19/10/11 04:25, Natalie Golovin wrote:
The Declaration of Independence says the rights come from the Creator-thus human rights. But they're Secured by the State. The US scores pretty well regarding human rights. When abuses like slavery are targeted they have been addressed. Why not direct your anger at the many nations where human rights are at the disposition of the military or depend on one's gender or religion. And please stop romanticizing native peoples. At the time-all the tribes-including the invading European ones- engaged in shifting alliances& schemes to enrich their communities. The Europeans had better weapons. And since no one "owned" all that available land, and many of the tribes were nomadic-What right (Re: a previous mail) did the natives have to dominate it? The invaders came from crowded cities and were "homesteading." We're not getting anywhere with this dialogue-Why not switch gears to attacking CEO's& enabling bureaucrats& politicians-where we have "common" ground?
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin Carson Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 7:48 PM To: P2P Foundation mailing list Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Libertarians
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Natalie Golovin<[email protected]> wrote:
Convoluted I�m a human citizen of the US which through its Constitution grants its citizens a certain set of rights& privileges. It has 3 branches-Executive, Legislative& Judicial and a border that is �generally� respected and would be defended militarily if aggressively attacked. I consider myself fortunate to be a citizen of a country that confers human rights on its citizens- a rare thing. A human without a nation has no rights-privileges or security.
I believe I have my rights by nature of my birth as a human being, not as a result of their being "granted" or "conferred" by any government. The U.S. government, at most, recognizes -- or rather, pays lip service -- to these rights.
And the wording of the Bill of Rights itself refers to "persons," not citizens, and has been widely understood since the beginning to require due process of law for all persons residing under the state's jurisdiction.
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