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Greetings! i forwarded it to my academic home base (i'm a Phd student) at University of Vermont (USA) listservs and colleagues earlier today, and got a few inquiries with interest in the topic and asking about a recording, due schedule conflicts. will there be one to share out afterwards? We very much hope so. Thanks so much! Nina *Note: Please pardon any curtness and grammar oddities. The huge and months-long sustained spike in computering {typing, mousing, striking ‘look at screen’ pose for hours} has flared up arm pain, from an old~ish injury, bigly. Minimizing typing et al. helps a lot! Thank you for your understanding.* Nina Smolyar ~ ~ ~ On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 6:03 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
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Dear All, Please see below and disseminate widely. Thank you, Vandana
Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC) Welcomes you to the 22nd talk in our series
Indigenous and non-western understandings of climate change: Latin American challenges to colonial and extractivist discourses
2 February, Tuesday, 6 pm IST
By Rosalyn Bold, Department of Social Anthropology, University College, London
Use the following Zoom link to join. All are welcome.
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87369834218
Dr Rosalyn Bold is a social anthropologist whose work focuses on creating a cosmopolitics of climate change. She undertook her PhD fieldwork in Highland Bolivia, and wrote Indigenous Perceptions of the End of the World: Creating a Cosmopolitics of Change (2019) and articles on pro-indigenous environmental law in Bolivia, as well as on the 'cosmoscape', considering how contrasting worlding practices contest and converse with one another in contemporary indigenous responses to extractivism.
About the talk : What relevance can indigenous and other non-western environmental understandings have in creating climate change strategies? Rosalyn Bold will outline the recent turn to cosmopolitics and political ontology in the social sciences, which have allowed us to take seriously the cosmological and environmental understandings of indigenous peoples in Latin America, and worldwide. Contemporary philosophers of science have explained how the modern mentality, which assumes human control over natural resources, underlies extractivist processes that cause climate change. Can ‘other’ worlding practices help us to strip understandings of climate change and the environment back to their roots and imagine more sustainable strategies? Can taking such worlds seriously contribute to respecting existing sustainable lifestyles and ways of inhabiting the environment?
About the group : Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC) is a non-funded, non-party organization that seeks to promote understanding and engagement about different aspects of the climate crisis among students, teachers, and activists. To engage with our work, and get to know of future talks, visit https://teachersagainstclimatecrisis.wordpress.com/ . Twitter: @climateTACC --
Dear Nina, I am fairly certain the talk will be recorded; I will share the link once it is done! I'm glad there's interest in this crucial topic! With best wishes, Vandana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nina Smolyar" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 3:10:09 PM Subject: [PeDAGoG] recording of TALK??: Indigenous, non-western understandings of CC e: GTA-PeDAGoG Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 Greetings! i forwarded it to my academic home base (i'm a Phd student) at University of Vermont (USA) listservs and colleagues earlier today, and got a few inquiries with interest in the topic and asking about a recording, due schedule conflicts. will there be one to share out afterwards? We very much hope so. Thanks so much! Nina Note: Please pardon any curtness and grammar oddities. The huge and months-long sustained spike in computering {typing, mousing, striking ‘look at screen’ pose for hours} has flared up arm pain, from an old~ish injury, bigly. Minimizing typing et al. helps a lot! Thank you for your understanding. Nina Smolyar ~ ~ ~ On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 6:03 AM < [email protected] > wrote: Send GTA-PeDAGoG mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.ourproject.org/mailman/listinfo/gta-pedagog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of GTA-PeDAGoG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Reminder: Feb. 2: our NEXT TALK: Indigenous, non-western understandings of CC ( [email protected] ) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 09:29:31 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] To: "vikalp-sangam-list " < [email protected] >, "PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group" < [email protected] > Subject: [PeDAGoG] Reminder: Feb. 2: our NEXT TALK: Indigenous, non-western understandings of CC Message-ID: < [email protected] > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear All, Please see below and disseminate widely. Thank you, Vandana Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC) Welcomes you to the 22nd talk in our series Indigenous and non-western understandings of climate change: Latin American challenges to colonial and extractivist discourses 2 February, Tuesday, 6 pm IST By Rosalyn Bold, Department of Social Anthropology, University College, London Use the following Zoom link to join. All are welcome. https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87369834218 Dr Rosalyn Bold is a social anthropologist whose work focuses on creating a cosmopolitics of climate change. She undertook her PhD fieldwork in Highland Bolivia, and wrote Indigenous Perceptions of the End of the World: Creating a Cosmopolitics of Change (2019) and articles on pro-indigenous environmental law in Bolivia, as well as on the 'cosmoscape', considering how contrasting worlding practices contest and converse with one another in contemporary indigenous responses to extractivism. About the talk : What relevance can indigenous and other non-western environmental understandings have in creating climate change strategies? Rosalyn Bold will outline the recent turn to cosmopolitics and political ontology in the social sciences, which have allowed us to take seriously the cosmological and environmental understandings of indigenous peoples in Latin America, and worldwide. Contemporary philosophers of science have explained how the modern mentality, which assumes human control over natural resources, underlies extractivist processes that cause climate change. Can ‘other’ worlding practices help us to strip understandings of climate change and the environment back to their roots and imagine more sustainable strategies? Can taking such worlds seriously contribute to respecting existing sustainable lifestyles and ways of inhabiting the environment? About the group : Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC) is a non-funded, non-party organization that seeks to promote understanding and engagement about different aspects of the climate crisis among students, teachers, and activists. To engage with our work, and get to know of future talks, visit https://teachersagainstclimatecrisis.wordpress.com/ . Twitter: @climateTACC -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you Vandana, I would also greatly appreciate a recording of this session, as it is very relevant to the work I’m doing but I’m unfortunately unable to attend the live session. Warm wishes and appreciation. 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I'm glad there's interest in this crucial topic! With best wishes, Vandana ------------------------------ *From: *"Nina Smolyar" <[email protected]> *To: *[email protected] *Sent: *Monday, February 1, 2021 3:10:09 PM *Subject: *[PeDAGoG] recording of TALK??: Indigenous, non-western understandings of CC e: GTA-PeDAGoG Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 Greetings! i forwarded it to my academic home base (i'm a Phd student) at University of Vermont (USA) listservs and colleagues earlier today, and got a few inquiries with interest in the topic and asking about a recording, due schedule conflicts. will there be one to share out afterwards? We very much hope so. Thanks so much! Nina *Note: Please pardon any curtness and grammar oddities. The huge and months-long sustained spike in computering {typing, mousing, striking ‘look at screen’ pose for hours} has flared up arm pain, from an old~ish injury, bigly. Minimizing typing et al. helps a lot! Thank you for your understanding.* Nina Smolyar ~ ~ ~ [image: Image removed by sender.] On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 6:03 AM <[email protected]> wrote: Send GTA-PeDAGoG mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.ourproject.org/mailman/listinfo/gta-pedagog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of GTA-PeDAGoG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Reminder: Feb. 2: our NEXT TALK: Indigenous, non-western understandings of CC ([email protected]) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2021 09:29:31 -0500 (EST) From: [email protected] To: "vikalp-sangam-list " <[email protected]>, "PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group" <[email protected]> Subject: [PeDAGoG] Reminder: Feb. 2: our NEXT TALK: Indigenous, non-western understandings of CC Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dear All, Please see below and disseminate widely. Thank you, Vandana Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC) Welcomes you to the 22nd talk in our series Indigenous and non-western understandings of climate change: Latin American challenges to colonial and extractivist discourses 2 February, Tuesday, 6 pm IST By Rosalyn Bold, Department of Social Anthropology, University College, London Use the following Zoom link to join. All are welcome. https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87369834218 Dr Rosalyn Bold is a social anthropologist whose work focuses on creating a cosmopolitics of climate change. She undertook her PhD fieldwork in Highland Bolivia, and wrote Indigenous Perceptions of the End of the World: Creating a Cosmopolitics of Change (2019) and articles on pro-indigenous environmental law in Bolivia, as well as on the 'cosmoscape', considering how contrasting worlding practices contest and converse with one another in contemporary indigenous responses to extractivism. About the talk : What relevance can indigenous and other non-western environmental understandings have in creating climate change strategies? Rosalyn Bold will outline the recent turn to cosmopolitics and political ontology in the social sciences, which have allowed us to take seriously the cosmological and environmental understandings of indigenous peoples in Latin America, and worldwide. Contemporary philosophers of science have explained how the modern mentality, which assumes human control over natural resources, underlies extractivist processes that cause climate change. Can ‘other’ worlding practices help us to strip understandings of climate change and the environment back to their roots and imagine more sustainable strategies? Can taking such worlds seriously contribute to respecting existing sustainable lifestyles and ways of inhabiting the environment? About the group : Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC) is a non-funded, non-party organization that seeks to promote understanding and engagement about different aspects of the climate crisis among students, teachers, and activists. To engage with our work, and get to know of future talks, visit https://teachersagainstclimatecrisis.wordpress.com/ . Twitter: @climateTACC --
Dear All, For those who missed today's talk by anthropologist Dr. Rosalyn Bold in the series from Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC), or those who want to revisit what was a really interesting session, here is the link to the youtube video. Indigenous and non-western understandings of climate change: Latin American challenges to colonial and extractivist discourses Dr. Rosalyn Bold, University College, London. https://youtu.be/IWQ9RRs_GsI Best, Vandana
Dear Vandana, thanks a lot and the best! O. L. Castillo Profesora Depto. Desarrollo Rural y Regional Facultad de Estudios Ambientales y Rurales Pontificia Universidad Javeriana (PUJ) Bogotá - Colombia ________________________________ De: GTA-PeDAGoG <[email protected]> en nombre de [email protected] <[email protected]> Enviado: martes, 2 de febrero de 2021 12:22 p. m. Para: PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group <[email protected]>; vikalp-sangam-list <[email protected]> Asunto: [PeDAGoG] Recording of TACC TALK: Indigenous, non-western understandings of Climate Change by Dr. Rosalyn Bold Dear All, For those who missed today's talk by anthropologist Dr. Rosalyn Bold in the series from Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC), or those who want to revisit what was a really interesting session, here is the link to the youtube video. Indigenous and non-western understandings of climate change: Latin American challenges to colonial and extractivist discourses Dr. Rosalyn Bold, University College, London. https://youtu.be/IWQ9RRs_GsI Best, Vandana AVISO LEGAL: El presente correo electronico no representa la opinion o el consentimiento oficial de la PONTIFICIA UNIVERSIDAD JAVERIANA. Este mensaje es confidencial y puede contener informacion privilegiada la cual no puede ser usada ni divulgada a personas distintas de su destinatario. Esta prohibida la retencion, grabacion, utilizacion, aprovechamiento o divulgacion con cualquier proposito. Si por error recibe este mensaje, por favor destruya su contenido y avise a su remitente. En este aviso legal se omiten intencionalmente las tildes. Este mensaje ha sido revisado por un sistema antivirus, por lo que su contenido esta libre de virus. This e-mail has been scanned by an antivirus system, so its contents is virus free.
Thanks very much everyone, I enjoyed today. I may have given the wrong email address! You can contact me here at [email protected]. I am eager to develop collaborations with colleagues studying the relevance of these ideas in india- feel free to get in touch! Best wishes Rosalyn Dr. Rosalyn Bold Honorary Research Fellow Department of Social Anthropology University College London. ________________________________ From: GTA-PeDAGoG <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: 02 February 2021 17:22 To: PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group <[email protected]>; vikalp-sangam-list <[email protected]> Subject: [PeDAGoG] Recording of TACC TALK: Indigenous, non-western understandings of Climate Change by Dr. Rosalyn Bold Dear All, For those who missed today's talk by anthropologist Dr. Rosalyn Bold in the series from Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC), or those who want to revisit what was a really interesting session, here is the link to the youtube video. Indigenous and non-western understandings of climate change: Latin American challenges to colonial and extractivist discourses Dr. Rosalyn Bold, University College, London. https://youtu.be/IWQ9RRs_GsI Best, Vandana
Dear Rosalyn, Thanks for your talk. In response to your question about similar ideas being explored in India, I would like to share the work of a friend and amazing naturalist, Godwin Vasanth Bosco, who worked for nine years in the Shola regions of the Nilgiris in South India and in 2019 came out with a book called "Voice of a Sentient Highland". There is a startling correspondence between what you were talking about and what he talks about - Vasanth has come to it through his own relationship with the mountains (and shola) he knows best. Technical reasons also prevented me from asking the couple of questions I wanted, so I take this opportunity to do so - I was most intrigued by the idea that - and I hope I got it right - climate change will not prove to be as disastrous for the small, organic farmer as for industrial agro-business. Have I got it right, and if yes, could you say more about that? Also, I am sceptical of reading too much into ritual as a means of signifying (or inculcating) respect/love. Here in India symbol and actuality are kept remorselessly apart. Mainstream Hinduism still - indeed, increasingly - pays attention to the rituals that worship snakes, trees, forests, lakes, spring, harvest, etc.etc., even as, as a society, we systematically lop away at forests, dynamite sacred mountains and rivers, etc.etc. Thoughts? Incidentally, I studied mainstream Euro-American culture for my dissertation in Anthropology many years ago in order to study the eye/I through which so much of the rest of the world is perceived - The divorce between nature/culture, self/society, thought/emotion, body/mind seems to lie at the very heart of this way of perception. Unfortunately however, these dichotomies are now well represented in thinking - scholarly and otherwise - all over the world (Protestantism appears to be just one of the many religions that sit well with our current economic system!). Looking forward to continued discussion - best, sonali On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 00:54, Bold, Rosalyn <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks very much everyone, I enjoyed today. I may have given the wrong email address! You can contact me here at [email protected]. I am eager to develop collaborations with colleagues studying the relevance of these ideas in india- feel free to get in touch!
Best wishes
Rosalyn
Dr. Rosalyn Bold
Honorary Research Fellow
Department of Social Anthropology University College London. ------------------------------ *From:* GTA-PeDAGoG <[email protected]> on behalf of [email protected] <[email protected]> *Sent:* 02 February 2021 17:22 *To:* PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group < [email protected]>; vikalp-sangam-list < [email protected]> *Subject:* [PeDAGoG] Recording of TACC TALK: Indigenous, non-western understandings of Climate Change by Dr. Rosalyn Bold
Dear All,
For those who missed today's talk by anthropologist Dr. Rosalyn Bold in the series from Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC), or those who want to revisit what was a really interesting session, here is the link to the youtube video.
Indigenous and non-western understandings of climate change: Latin American challenges to colonial and extractivist discourses Dr. Rosalyn Bold, University College, London. https://youtu.be/IWQ9RRs_GsI
Best, Vandana
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Hello Sonali Thanks for your email, and my apologies that it has taken me so long to reply! I am teaching as a Visiting Fellow with a Mexican university and it has taken up a lot of my time and attention preparing the classes. Godwin Vasanth Bosco sounds fascinating from his website, and I will enjoy reading his book, many thanks. In response to your questions (I am copying them in case you can no longer remember!) 1.) I was most intrigued by the idea that - and I hope I got it right - climate change will not prove to be as disastrous for the small, organic farmer as for industrial agro-business. Have I got it right, and if yes, could you say more about that? Well this is to some extent conjecture on my part, based on my observations of how quickly Kaatans respond to change. Also its predicated on the 'gambling' involved in predicting future crop prices on the stock exchange- this is what governs international agribusiness rather than a focus on producing as much as possible with a highly resilient diverse approach. The UNFAO in 2010 produced a report entitled 'Wake Up!' which broke with the green revolution fascination to call urgently for the propagation of small scale 'traditional' farming as it is more resilient to climate change as well as emitting significantly less greenhouse gases than agribusiness employing tractors, hydrocarbon based fertilisers, etc. Do you know that the agricultural sector currently accounts for a third of greenhouse gas emissions worldwide?!? amazing for something that involves growing plants, which of course absorb carbon- it seems to me that this is the easiest to change, given there are many existing sustainable farming systems and landscape knowledge still out there. It seems that this is an especially relevant issue in India as there has been such a widespread uptake of GR techniques with such controversial consequences, like the contemporary protests, farmer suicides and pesticide related illnesses, etc. My partner and I are making a documentary on traditional vs. GR farming among the Bishnoi of Haryana and Rajasthan. 2) Also, I am sceptical of reading too much into ritual as a means of signifying (or inculcating) respect/love. Here in India symbol and actuality are kept remorselessly apart. Mainstream Hinduism still - indeed, increasingly - pays attention to the rituals that worship snakes, trees, forests, lakes, spring, harvest, etc.etc., even as, as a society, we systematically lop away at forests, dynamite sacred mountains and rivers, etc.etc. Thoughts? Yes, this is an interesting observation, and leads one to wonder what is different in this type of veneration. Do they worship particular forests, snakes etc or abstract ones, that is to say, are we talking about immanent or transcendent religiosity here? I would love to study this more and hope to make it to India before too much more time elapses to do just this. We are restricted from applying for tourist visas currently but it is my hope with some institutional backing at the Indian end I would eb able to get a Research Visa. On pervasive modernism you might like Michael Cepek's There Might Be Blood, an ethnography whcih I am currently doing with my Mexican students. I hope youre well, and good to be in touch! Best wishes Rosalyn Dr. Rosalyn Bold Honorary Research Fellow Department of Social Anthropology University College London. ________________________________ From: sonali sathaye <[email protected]> Sent: 03 February 2021 08:38 To: PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group <[email protected]>; Bold, Rosalyn <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>; vikalp-sangam-list <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PeDAGoG] Recording of TACC TALK: Indigenous, non-western understandings of Climate Change by Dr. Rosalyn Bold Dear Rosalyn, Thanks for your talk. In response to your question about similar ideas being explored in India, I would like to share the work of a friend and amazing naturalist, Godwin Vasanth Bosco, who worked for nine years in the Shola regions of the Nilgiris in South India and in 2019 came out with a book called "Voice of a Sentient Highland". There is a startling correspondence between what you were talking about and what he talks about - Vasanth has come to it through his own relationship with the mountains (and shola) he knows best. Technical reasons also prevented me from asking the couple of questions I wanted, so I take this opportunity to do so - I was most intrigued by the idea that - and I hope I got it right - climate change will not prove to be as disastrous for the small, organic farmer as for industrial agro-business. Have I got it right, and if yes, could you say more about that? Also, I am sceptical of reading too much into ritual as a means of signifying (or inculcating) respect/love. Here in India symbol and actuality are kept remorselessly apart. Mainstream Hinduism still - indeed, increasingly - pays attention to the rituals that worship snakes, trees, forests, lakes, spring, harvest, etc.etc., even as, as a society, we systematically lop away at forests, dynamite sacred mountains and rivers, etc.etc. Thoughts? Incidentally, I studied mainstream Euro-American culture for my dissertation in Anthropology many years ago in order to study the eye/I through which so much of the rest of the world is perceived - The divorce between nature/culture, self/society, thought/emotion, body/mind seems to lie at the very heart of this way of perception. Unfortunately however, these dichotomies are now well represented in thinking - scholarly and otherwise - all over the world (Protestantism appears to be just one of the many religions that sit well with our current economic system!). Looking forward to continued discussion - best, sonali On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 00:54, Bold, Rosalyn <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Thanks very much everyone, I enjoyed today. I may have given the wrong email address! You can contact me here at [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. I am eager to develop collaborations with colleagues studying the relevance of these ideas in india- feel free to get in touch! Best wishes Rosalyn Dr. Rosalyn Bold Honorary Research Fellow Department of Social Anthropology University College London. ________________________________ From: GTA-PeDAGoG <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Sent: 02 February 2021 17:22 To: PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; vikalp-sangam-list <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [PeDAGoG] Recording of TACC TALK: Indigenous, non-western understandings of Climate Change by Dr. Rosalyn Bold Dear All, For those who missed today's talk by anthropologist Dr. Rosalyn Bold in the series from Teachers Against the Climate Crisis (TACC), or those who want to revisit what was a really interesting session, here is the link to the youtube video. Indigenous and non-western understandings of climate change: Latin American challenges to colonial and extractivist discourses Dr. Rosalyn Bold, University College, London. https://youtu.be/IWQ9RRs_GsI Best, Vandana _______________________________________________ GTA-PeDAGoG mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.ourproject.org/mailman/listinfo/gta-pedagog
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