Thanks, Renata, good to know you can volunteer to help with the mapping of alternative learning initiatives (or networks of these, as it will be impossible to map each individual initiative). I think those in PeDAGoG who are interested in this, can have a discussion with Franco Augusto, our colleague in GTA core team who is leading the open source mapping of alternatives process for GTA. Also, it would be useful to know if there are existing mapping initiatives in this field, by Ecoversities, Educere, or other existing networks so we don't duplicate efforts but rather synergise with them. The initiatives you've indicated below seem v. interesting, we will surely look them up, and also perhasp invite their representatives to join PeDAGoG, if you know them and can invite them on our behalf? (given the focus of this discussion, I've changed the subject header, so it would be useful it people use this thread to continue on this subject) thanks, ashish On 16/02/22 8:39 pm, Renata Amorim wrote:
Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
Thanks for sending the notes of the meeting so we can catch up, Upamanyu.
Concerning some comments and ideais to work on, towards alternative pedagogies and global mapping of alternative learning and education practices/networks, I think I can eventually contribute on that, looking forward to strengthen ties with networks and other groups that are doing similar work. For example by now I can indicate two initiatives: Gesturing Towards Decolonial Futures, a researchers/artists collective coordinated by Vanessa Andreotti and other professors, working on innovative experiments in Canada and Brazil (https://decolonialfutures.net/) and also Teia dos Povos, a grassroot organization connecting indigenous and black people, artisanal fishermen and small farmers in Brazil, promoting what they call agroecology journeys and others interesting pegagogic pratices (https://teiadospovos.org/the-web-of-the-peoples/). But how/where can we systematize these informations?
I also added my name and informations on the PeDAGoG member list.
Best regards, Renata
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Em qua., 16 de fev. de 2022 às 08:11, UPAMANYU DAS . <[email protected]> escreveu:
Also attaching the Ethics document for PeDAGoG put together by Working Group 5 for everyone's viewing.
best, Upamanyu
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 4:25 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
Here is the link to the recording of yesterday's meeting: https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/bImQGk9yi6GmkudVyLwb66_AF4VTPo9Jr22Glt130a...
Also attached are the minutes of the meeting. Please take a look at some of the new ideas that have come up during the meeting, and let us know if you'd like to volunteer.
*PeDAGoG Meeting - 15th Feb 2022 *
*Attendees:* Ashish Kothari, Vasna Ramasar, Upamanyu Das, Massimo de Marchi, Pallavi Patil, Sujit Sinha, Melanie Bush, Christian Stalberg, Laurence Davis, Adrian Schlegel, Elizabeth Rahman, Irene Sotiropoulou, Kaustubh Rau
PeDAGoG member list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sY1zrrRvYYh0l-6qCmRjQJwKun4BJMOH7jRJ... <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sY1zrrRvYYh0l-6qCmRjQJwKun4BJMOH7jRJ7XK2huI/edit?usp=sharing>
*Meeting notes:*
* Pallavi: On the question of PeDAGoG expanding, there are many people interested in the network. This is especially as courses on sustainability and environment are also becoming more important, so we can tap into these groups further. * Melanie and Vasna: It might be helpful to create a ‘moment/event’ that brings people in the network together to help with identity formation.
*Update on Working Group 1 on creating a repository of online materials*
* For the purposes of creating an initial repository, the RED website ( https://radicalecologicaldemocracy.org <https://radicalecologicaldemocracy.org>) will host material from PeDAGoG. * John Foran, Sujit Sinha and Adrian Schlegel are working on this activity. They are going though the different kinds of materials that are to be uploaded and looking at ways to organise them. It might possibly take another month or so for the uploading to begin. The WG is looking forward to suggestions and volunteers.
*Update on Working Group 2 on inward-facing events*
* We can make plans to host programmes/webinars where we can learn about each other's approaches in depth. /(more on this in Comments)/
*Update on Working Group 5 on an ethics document*
* Ethics document has been prepared and sent out by Angging Aban to the group. It will be uploaded on the RED website as part of the write-up on PeDAGoG.* *
*Comments*
* Laurence: The online repository will be a really useful resource. It will help students to move beyond ‘theory’ and towards witnessing real-world practices. Alternatives mapping is another extremely useful area of interest. We should also look at strengthening ties with networks and other groups that are doing similar work. A collective discussion on ‘pedagogy’ is also required, especially for institutionalised educators to break out of their pedagogic ‘ruts’ and core assumptions that tend to dominate the discourse of education. * Sujit: One of the courses we taught was around education through hands-on work, which was also an idea of Gandhi. Pallavi is working on a project trying to locate such similar pedagogic practices from around the world. The repository we are collecting (as part of WG1) will also help in educating in different ways, helping more diverse groups access such pedagogic materials. * Massimo: It is important to maintain the network and share our experiences, as well as optimise the participation within the network. There is also a need for putting together resources which should be used for highlighting (grassroots) stories alongside our pedagogic materials. Sharing our common goods, time, stories, visions, and experiences is very important. * Vasna: We should look at ways to overlap and collaborate with other networks, such as Ecoversities. * Elizabeth: Knowledge exchange is a process that we have been working on so we have some experience with that. Alongside sharing of knowledge, we also want to see some grounding actions. Thinking about how to use our time to achieve some of these goals and also have a larger impact will be important. * Ashish: On the mapping process, GTA has been working on an open sourced Mapping software to map alternative networks and practices. While it won’t document all alternatives processes across the world (as that would be impossible), it will cover many important grassroots practices, organisations etc. The Map will allow for anyone to add to it, so we can have a subsection on alternative pedagogy-based mapping which PeDAGoG members can lead. * Elizabeth: As part of the Centre for Teaching and Learning, we are planning to work on a series of open talks on radical pedagogy. We can see how to include PeDAGoG in that process. * Christian: I’m interested in the idea of radical pedagogy, with time, I would also look to contribute. * Sujit: Audio-video material is also important, as mentioned by members here. The problem is that there is a huge amount of such material, and we need to put together small write-ups for these materials for better organisation and ease of access. * Ashish: We can look at internship opportunities for support as well. * Pallavi: On the question of knowledge sharing, we can possibly try one event for inward-facing sharing, and we can then look at whether we would like to have more such inward-facing events, or public events. * Elizabeth: It might help now to figure out some initial ideas for speakers for the sharing sessions. Suggestions include Christian, and Sujit and Pallavi. * Laurence: To avoid the problem of the same people always presenting, we can send an open invitation on the PeDAGoG list if anyone would like to share their work. * Ashish: We can also look at groups and communities outside our networks as well, such as the Kurdish Rojava movement or Zapatistas.
*Ideas to work on:*
* Series of webinars/knowledge sharing among the participants - Elizabeth, Pallavi, Christian * A global mapping of alternative learning and education practices/networks (as part of the GTA Mapping process) * Using ‘events’ to highlight the work of PeDAGoG and alternative pedagogies.
On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:31 PM Ashish Kothari <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear PeDAGoGians, we start in 5 minutes, do join if you can,
ashish
On 15/02/22 3:22 pm, UPAMANYU DAS . wrote:
Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
A gentle reminder that we are meeting today at 3 PM GMT. Here is the zoom link for joining the session: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/6717720473
best, Upamanyu
On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 5:15 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
A gentle reminder that our next meeting is on 15th Feb at 3-5 PM GMT.
Here is the link for joining: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/6717720473
best, Upamanyu
On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 5:00 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear all,
There was a slight mistake in my previous email -- the next meeting is to be held on *15th Feb* at *3-5 PM GMT* (/not GST/). Apologies for the confusion. I will send across a link for the meeting soon.
Best, Upamanyu
On Thu, Feb 3, 2022 at 4:33 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
Our next PeDAGoG meet is scheduled to be held on 15th Feb at 3-5 PM GST. We will send across a link for same soon!
Best, Upamanyu (GTA)
On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 7:32 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
Hope you're all well!
We are planning to host our next meeting in mid-February. Please find below a Doodle Poll for everyone to indicate their availability, Do fill it in *before 31st Jan *so we can finalise the date: https://doodle.com/poll/qh4daremvf7kdt6d?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link <https://doodle.com/poll/qh4daremvf7kdt6d?utm_source=poll&utm_medium=link>
The broad agenda of the meeting is to continue with updates from the different working groups, including ways forward. Please feel free to suggest additional discussion points.
Please see the email chain below to find the minutes of the previous meetings.
best, Upamanyu
On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 5:57 PM UPAMANYU DAS . <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
Below are the minutes of the meeting held yesterday.
For those who couldn't attend, please read through the next steps charted out by the various working groups and feel free to volunteer wherever you can help.
* *Check ins* * Angging: from UPCIDS Alt Dev team * Adrian Schegel: Masters student from Germany working on post-colonial studies * Sujit Sinha: Ex-professor, living utopian, writing and translating texts into Bengali for grassroots movements as well as working on audio visual materials. * Renata Amorim: Phd student from Brazil, working with grassroots movements, connected with the eco village network, looking to find ways to engage and collaborate with the group. * Irene: Researcher in non-capitalist ecologically sustainable economics * Sonali Sathaye: Freelance educator. Alternative education linked to alternative economics is an area of interest. Working on a course on Climate Change for school students. * Rama Mohana: Faculty at IIM Ahmedabad, part of this group largely to learn about alternative education and contribute where possible. * Ashish: works with Kalpariksh, Vikalp Sangam, Global Tapestry of Alternatives. * Upamanyu: KV, VS, GTA * Vasna: Lund University, Sweden, GTA Core, WOmin * Arvin: UPCIDS Alt Dev, Community organiser in urban poor community.
*Updates from working groups
Working Group 1: Pedagogic and knowledge sharing to build and strengthen repositories of materials* * The group made a list of the kind of materials people tend to share on Pedagog. The next question is where to save the materials. * One option is to use the GTA platform. * Start an independent website * Shared cloud drive * Funds are required, a coordinator is necessary.
*Comments * * Ashish: Easy access is the question. A quick call over the next couple of weeks can help in moving forward. Franco (GTA), Pallav (RED) can help. Flarum is another possibility. * Ashish: Another question is whether the space would be passive or interactive. Would it also require an internal and external section? * Upamanyu: Moodle is an option to look into—free open source learning management system
*Working Group 2: Research collaborations and action research * * A database about the members could be a starting point/referral point to further collaborations. A Google form can be sent out to the group. * Melanie Bush can help in this group with processing the data
*Comments* * Sonali: Finding out what everyone is doing on the network could be quite overwhelming. It would be nice to have a framework to process that information. * Ashish: This would be very valuable. A questionnaire should go out soon. In order to put the information within a framework, we can create drop down menus (MCQs).
*Working Group 3: Co-organization of events (inward-facing)* * Along similar lines to Group 2, and there is more work/thinking required.
*Working Group 5: Collective Values and Principles of the PeDAGoG network* * Following document has been worked upon: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17XEzP8uyXYlbMS_RF9tJ7GOB-M1MpOhs/edit?us... <https://docs.google.com/document/d/17XEzP8uyXYlbMS_RF9tJ7GOB-M1MpOhs/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=111534508705890427151&rtpof=true&sd=true>
*Comments* * Sujit: Many people in this group are part of institutions which might not be in line with PEDAGOG’s ethics. * Vasna: Many of us are restricted by our institutions, but it is important to have these explicit guiding principles within these alternative spaces. * Ashish: Agreeing with Vasna, as one of the reasons behind PEDAGOG was to create an aspirational space, to subtly push and learn from each other. These ethics can be a guide to what could be. * Rama: These ethics can be a reference while critiquing the institutional constraints faced by many of us. * Ashish: the group can also play the role of advocacy such as with statements of solidarity. * Sonali: On Ashish’s point of solidarity, it can be hypocritical to advocate for anti-capitalist ideas while having comfortable jobs. This network can play a role in promoting alternative livelihoods and real alternatives. * Ashish: PEDAGOG is also supposed to challenge our ‘comfortable’ notions, such as finding a balance between lack of remuneration, following our interests, and well-paying jobs. * Irene: There is an imbalance of contributions within this group, there may be a need to push people further and become more strict with the members who don't contribute. * Ashish: Agreeing with the point made by Irene, one view can be to look at the network as a long term project instead of a short term project. There is progress being made by some working groups.
*Moving Forward* * *Group 1* will look to hold a meeting in the coming month. Call for volunteers to be sent out to the larger group for help. Ashish will try to loop Franco and Pallav in. * *Group 2* is working on a questionnaire for members, Melanie will also assist the group. * *Group 5* has already put together the ethics framework. Another attempt can be made to send it out for comments. If there are no comments, then we can accept this as a final document for now.
*Next Meeting:* 1,2,4,5,6 Feb as possible next dates. Upamanyu will send out a Doodle Poll soon.
On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:34 PM Ashish Kothari <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear PeDAGoG colleagues, a gentle reminder about today's meeting ... do join if you can! See agenda and link below.
If anyone would like to moderate this, pl. do volunteer ... you can write back to me, not full list,
thanks!
ashish
On 27/11/21 5:43 pm, Upamanyu Das wrote:
Dear PeDAGoG colleagues,
Hope you're all doing well!
We will be hosting the next online discussion of the PeGAGoG group on 16th Dec 2021 at 2 PM GMT.
The broad agenda of the discussion is as follows: 1. Check-ins 2. Update by the working groups - including follow up actions/support required by the groups 3. Plans for the upcoming year - including a discussion on how to make the group more active
Here's the link for the meeting: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/2598651679
This will be a follow-up on the meeting held in June this year. You can access the key points from the previous meeting here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X4p8-Lf6CDDIxyzs8Jc5xx6mb3fB3bSDYsYPbZmJ...
Lastly, it would be nice if the different working groups formed in the previous meet could provide a short report of their progress to the larger group before the meeting (particularly the working groups on research possibilities and inward-facing events), though we will explore this further during the meeting itself.
Looking forward to seeing you all there!
Best, Upamanyu
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