Thanks for the article and this interesting discussion. Just a quick cultural point: In the UK the descriptor 'public schools' refers to the type of education only the elite can pay for. Public schools are privately owned and are places that channel students to the top universities and where pupils are coached to be politicians and leaders in general. The term 'state education' is used to describe the system that the majority of the population uses. It is free, underfunded and provides different levels of opportunity depending on area. Just thought I would add that as cultural differences in language can sometimes make global broad sweep discussions trickier or more complex. ________________________________ From: Steven J. Klees <[email protected]> Sent: 22 June 2022 20:52 To: PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group <[email protected]> Cc: Luci Attala <[email protected]>; Laura Rival <[email protected]>; dan baron <[email protected]>; Amanda Janoo <[email protected]>; Elizabeth Rahman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PeDAGoG] my blog on UNESCO's GEM Report on the privatization of education RHYBUDD: Deilliodd yr e-bost hwn o du allan i system E-bost Prifysgol Cymru Y Drindod Dewi Sant. Peidiwch ag ateb, na chlicio ar ddolenni nac agor atodiadau oni bai eich bod yn adnabod cyfeiriad e-bost yr anfonwr ac yn gwybod bod y cynnwys yn ddiogel. WARNING: This email originated from outside University of Wales Trinity Saint David’s Email System. Do not reply, click links or open attachments unless you recognise the sender's email address and know the content is safe. Dear Sujit, Thank you for your thoughtful response to my blog. You raise BIG questions that need much more discussion! I value Illich's critique of institutional education, the Zapatista approach to education, and think that "government" and the world of nation-states needs to be re-thought! I look forward to considering some of these issues in our forthcoming webinar on Unitierra. Best, Steve On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 10:41 AM Sujit.Sinha <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Dear Steve Thanks for this article of yours. I am writing this letter to the whole group as I think there are some fundamental questions which might be of interest to everyone in this group. . . You have said and I quote “For the major existential problems the world faces today, we need another sea change, one that places governance in the hands of the public, of governments, of civil society and of a more participatory democracy. Privatization is a scourge. Climate and other environmental catastrophes, the pandemic, ongoing wars and violence, continued hunger, poverty, and inequality, rampant sexism and racism are not only not solvable by business but are exacerbated by the workings of neoliberal capitalism, perhaps by capitalism in any form.<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnhuntpublishing.com%2Fzer0-books%2Four-books%2Fconscience-progressive&data=05%7C01%7Cl.attala%40uwtsd.ac.uk%7C58271e8afea7406b661f08da5488b882%7C4e0f11f9046e45059cb8db2152311e21%7C0%7C0%7C637915243436121010%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=soI52Rp%2FjHFEzWfXVQb1Hj7KRWZOcLRiBuc1nyLcFV8%3D&reserved=0>” 1. It seems that you still have a lot of faith in “governments” , although you do mention civil society and more participatory democracy. Presumably you have some other form of “government “ in mind and not the 190 odd Nation States of today , capitalist or socialist ( when they existed ) 2. While you have made your views very clear regarding this festering public vs private basic education debate, you do not seem to critique “institutional education” ( public or private ) which Illich started so many years back. But you advocate for more funds, more professionals for “public primary education” which so many years back Illich had said is an inevitable outcome of liberal national school educational reviews. 3. Incidentally in India both Gandhi and Tagore had experimented with education opposed to INDUSTRIALISM. All this is relevant as very soon we are going to discuss Unitierra which owes a lot to Illich’s and Gustavo Esteva’s churnings on a different human destiny away from last two hundred years of spectacular industrial civilization , and the governments which have superbly coordinated this industrialism. The Zapatista movement is already experimenting with a very different school education which does not fall neatly in this public – private axis. Sujit From: GTA-PeDAGoG [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Steven J. Klees Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 2:40 AM To: PeDAGoG: Post-Development Academic-Activist Global Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Cc: Luci Attala <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; dan baron <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Laura Rival <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Elizabeth Rahman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; Amanda Janoo <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: [PeDAGoG] my blog on UNESCO's GEM Report on the privatization of education Dear Colleagues, FYI. NORRAG (https://www.norrag.org/<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.norrag.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cl.attala%40uwtsd.ac.uk%7C58271e8afea7406b661f08da5488b882%7C4e0f11f9046e45059cb8db2152311e21%7C0%7C0%7C637915243436121010%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ZWvr2wmXaNzjDG%2B17a%2FvN0SgBy%2BV3S48ifGOFNXsSxs%3D&reserved=0>) just published a blog of mine on UNESCO's 2021/22 Global Education Monitoring Report on non-state actors in education. The Report has some things to commend it but I find it falls far short of what is needed as well as reflect on the privatization of education more broadly. A quote from my blog: "Privatization is a scourge." https://www.norrag.org/the-privatization-of-education-reflections-on-unescos-gem-report-on-non-state-actors/<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.norrag.org%2Fthe-privatization-of-education-reflections-on-unescos-gem-report-on-non-state-actors%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cl.attala%40uwtsd.ac.uk%7C58271e8afea7406b661f08da5488b882%7C4e0f11f9046e45059cb8db2152311e21%7C0%7C0%7C637915243436121010%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=uq9JAUWNhTspI%2BxqBOQhLaDnTS7SdkpzM%2BSeP6AvJY0%3D&reserved=0> Best, Steve Steven J. 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