Marcelo, Si sólo encontraste el comando ginga en la carpeta de instalación, y no en /usr/local como le pediste vos al instalar, entonces es porque algo salió mal. No estoy 100 % seguro de que la instalación te vaya a funcionar bien, quizás sí, quizás no. De todas maneras yo empezaría por tratar de que la compilación funcione bien. Si tenés una PC más o menos buena que te tire un virtualbox, mi sugerencia es que te armes una maquina virtual en Debian, sin X11 ni nada, y le instales el Ginga de cero, siguiendo la guia (con el link que te tire). Así debe estar hecha la maquina virtual que puso el LIFIA y es la uso yo para probar aplicaciones. Saludos y que tengas suerte. Ezequiel. --- El mar 12-abr-11, Marcelo A. Vasquez <[email protected]> escribió: De: Marcelo A. Vasquez <[email protected]> Asunto: Re: [Ginga-argentina] Problemas al compilar Para: "Lista de la comunidad argentina de Ginga" <[email protected]> Fecha: martes, 12 de abril de 2011, 19:00 It Work fine, thanks Robert and all. Now, I test eclipse with plugin and development any test application. Then comment on the progress Regarts, Marcelo 2011/4/12 Roberto Gerson <[email protected]> Or you can edit ~/.directfbrc and add "system=x11". 2011/4/12 Bruno Seabra Lima <[email protected]> U have to enable de framebuffer device.If u are using the Debian u just need to put vga=MODE onde the kernel boot line. Where mode is the resolution and depth color u wanna use.At first u can try to use vga=ask, and is going to be presented the modes available. Bruno Seabra Mendonça Lima -------------- Bacharel em Ciência da Computação - UFMA Mestrando da PUC-Rio Pesquisador Laboratório Telemidia (PUC-Rio) Pesquisador Colaborador LAWS (UFMA) Pesquisador/Desenvolvedor Intacto Software ------------- www.bslima.com 2011/4/12 Marcelo A. Vasquez <[email protected]> Hola Ezequiel. Encontre el comando ginga, pero en el directorio en donde quedo la instalacion, tendria que agregar eso al PATH supongo, no? Igual corri el comando desde el directorio en donde esta con root y me dio este error: root@myDebian:/usr/local/apps/ginga1.1/sbin# ./ginga --ncl /home/mvasquez/projects/HolaMundo.ncl Setting up terminate handler --------------------------| Ginga.ar 1.1.0 |-------------------------- [Ginga] processing file commandline read: ginga ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| DirectFB 1.2.10 |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (c) 2001-2008 The world wide DirectFB Open Source Community (c) 2000-2004 Convergence (integrated media) GmbH ---------------------------------------------------------------- (*) DirectFB/Core: Single Application Core. (2010-06-30 18:37) (!) Direct/Util: opening '/dev/fb0' and '/dev/fb/0' failed --> No such file or directory (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Error opening framebuffer device! (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Use 'fbdev' option or set FRAMEBUFFER environment variable. (!) DirectFB/Core: Could not initialize 'system_core' core! --> Initialization error! /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-system/src/io/interface/device/dfb/DFBDeviceScreen.cpp <89>: (#) DirectFBError [DirectFBCreate( &dfb)]: Initialization error! root@myDebian:/usr/local/apps/ginga1.1/sbin# Alguna idea? Saludos, Marcelo 2011/4/12 Ezequiel García <[email protected]> Es muy raro que no tengas el comando ginga. No me darías la salida de estos dos comandos? $ sudo updatedb $ sudo locate ginga --- El mar 12-abr-11, Marcelo A. Vasquez <[email protected]> escribió: De: Marcelo A. Vasquez <[email protected]> Asunto: Re: [Ginga-argentina] Problemas al compilar Para: "Lista de la comunidad argentina de Ginga" <[email protected]> Fecha: martes, 12 de abril de 2011, 15:51 Gracias chicos por responder. Les cuento que compilo bien, no tuve problemas, pero con mi usuario de trabajo, no veo el comando "ginga" Por favor, me indican como hago para tener en el PATH el comando ginga? Por otro lado les cometo: La 1ra. guia que segui fue la de Ubuntu (http://wiki.ginga.org.ar/doku.php?id=aprende:instalacion_ubuntu), porque? no se .. y alli no figura la libreria "libgtest-dev". Aunque debo mencionar que las 2 guias Debian o Ubuntu. La forma de obtener los fuentes son distintas, una desde un FTP y otra usando el Repositorio. Creo que para mejorar: - Dejar una Guia para Debian y Ubunto - Dejar una sola forma de obtener los fuentes, creo que para el desarrollador es mejor el Subversion. Saludos y gracias por la ayuda. Marcelo 2011/4/12 Ezequiel García <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be [email protected]> Hola Marcelo, Como te señala Alejandro te falta la librería google-test. No sé si estás siguiendo las instrucciones de la wiki de nuestra comunidad, pero de todas maneras te envío el link: http://wiki.ginga.org.ar/doku.php?id=aprende:instalacion En las dependencias para Ubuntu/Debian ( y cualquier otra distro basado en ellas, como por ejemplo Tuquito) figura "libgtest-dev". Cualquier sugerencia sobre como mejorar la documentación de ayuda es bienvenida. También sería interesante si podés correr exitosamente los ejemplos. http://wiki.ginga.org.ar/doku.php?id=aprende:tutoriales_ncl-lua:inicio Saludos! --- El mar 12-abr-11, Alejandro Alvarez <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be [email protected]> escribió: De: Alejandro Alvarez <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be [email protected]> Asunto: Re: [Ginga-argentina] Problemas al compilar Para: "Lista de la comunidad argentina de Ginga" <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be [email protected]> Fecha: martes, 12 de abril de 2011, 10:56 Hola Marcelo, estás en el paso de compilar los test de unidad de la librería conector. Lo que te falta es la librería gtest (http://code.google.com/p/googletest/). Podes instalarla, o deshabilitar la compilación de los test cases desde el archivo CMakelists.txt, que se encuentra en src/gingacc-connector/CMakeLists.txt slds! On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Marcelo A. Vasquez <[email protected]> wrote: Estimados. Segui la guia para la instalaciòn de Ginga en linux, en mi caso estoy usando Debian, la ultima version. He llegado al paso final de compilar el Ginga: "Compilación Ginga.ar Estamos listos para compilar e instalar el Ginga.ar propiamente dicho. En este caso, la instalación se realiza sobre el directorio /usr/local. cd 1.1.0/src/ sudo ./ginga-build.sh -i -S -P /usr/local -C /usr/local " Pero me da el siguiente error: [ 81%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/gingaccconnector.dir/src/service/service.cpp.o [ 82%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/gingaccconnector.dir/src/service/serviceprovider.cpp.o Linking CXX static library libgingaccconnector.a [ 82%] Built target gingaccconnector Scanning dependencies of target test [ 83%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/test.dir/test/src/connector/connector.cpp.o In file included from /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:7: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/../util.h:5:25: error: gtest/gtest.h: No such file or directory /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:12: error: ‘testing’ has not been declared /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:12: error: expected ‘{’ before ‘Test’ /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:12: error: invalid type in declaration before ‘{’ token /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:12: warning: extended initializer lists only available with -std=c++0x or -std=gnu++0x /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:13: error: expected primary-expression before ‘public’ /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:13: error: expected ‘}’ before ‘public’ /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:13: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘public’ /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:18: error: declaration of ‘~ConnectorTest’ as non-member /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void onConnect(int)’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:21: error: ‘_connect’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void onDisconnect(int)’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:26: error: ‘_disconnect’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void onConnectTimeout(int)’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:31: error: ‘_connectTimeout’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void onTimeout(int)’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:36: error: ‘_timeout’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘connector::Connector* startServer(const std::string&, int)’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:42: error: incomplete type ‘ConnectorTest’ used in nested name specifier /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:42: error: invalid use of ‘this’ in non-member function /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:43: error: incomplete type ‘ConnectorTest’ used in nested name specifier /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:43: error: invalid use of ‘this’ in non-member function /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:44: error: incomplete type ‘ConnectorTest’ used in nested name specifier /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:44: error: invalid use of ‘this’ in non-member function /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:45: error: incomplete type ‘ConnectorTest’ used in nested name specifier /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:45: error: invalid use of ‘this’ in non-member function /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘connector::Connector* startClient(const std::string&, int, int)’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:54: error: incomplete type ‘ConnectorTest’ used in nested name specifier /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:54: error: invalid use of ‘this’ in non-member function /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:55: error: incomplete type ‘ConnectorTest’ used in nested name specifier /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:55: error: invalid use of ‘this’ in non-member function /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:56: error: incomplete type ‘ConnectorTest’ used in nested name specifier /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:56: error: invalid use of ‘this’ in non-member function /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void start()’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:62: error: ‘_server’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:62: error: ‘_pipe’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:64: error: ‘_client’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: At global scope: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:71: error: ‘virtual’ outside class declaration /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void SetUp()’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:73: error: ‘_pipe’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:74: error: ‘_connect’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:74: error: ‘_disconnect’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:74: error: ‘_connectTimeout’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:74: error: ‘_timeout’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: At global scope: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:77: error: ‘virtual’ outside class declaration /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void TearDown()’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:78: error: ‘stop’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void stop()’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:83: error: ‘stopClient’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:84: error: ‘stopServer’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void stopServer()’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:88: error: ‘_server’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:90: error: type ‘<type error>’ argument given to ‘delete’, expected pointer /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: In function ‘void stopClient()’: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:96: error: ‘_client’ was not declared in this scope /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:98: error: type ‘<type error>’ argument given to ‘delete’, expected pointer /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp: At global scope: /usr/local/src/ginga.ar/tags/release/1.1.0/1.1.0/src/gingacc-connector/test/src/connector/connector.cpp:109: error: expected declaration before ‘}’ token make[2]: *** [CMakeFiles/test.dir/test/src/connector/connector.cpp.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/test.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 Podrian indicarme cual es el problema? Muchas gracias por cualquier ayuda. 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