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    Esta bien donde bajamos U-get y Ututo-devel para trabajar y terminar
    la iso, a la vez de generar los binarios?<br>
    Daniel ten&eacute;s idea?<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/08/14 17:13, Diego Gabriel Calbo
      Elizondo wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAF_CSy6qWZTmNgj0Po+=pBkTw3u5c3E+Eb7LnkA8Arq9fn29rw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Hola, con respecto a los paquetes creo que debemos
        tener en claro que UTUTO di&oacute; siempre paquetes binarios. Con esto
        quiero decir que el problema de las licencias y dem&aacute;s cosas las
        vamos a pelear nosotros en los entornos de compilaci&oacute;n.&nbsp;
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          El usuario final no deber&iacute;a utilizar el emerge como
          herramienta de instalaci&oacute;n o compilaci&oacute;n ya que de ese modo va
          a romper casi seguro la distro que utiliza.</div>
        <div>XS debe tener como herramienta de instalaci&oacute;n a uget que
          estaba bastante madura como para contemplar varias
          situaciones.</div>
        <div>Luego si el usuario quiere compilar sus paquetes debe
          instalarse el paquete ututo-devel (creo que as&iacute; se llamaba)
          donde se le instalar&aacute;n las librer&iacute;as y compiladores
          necesarios.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Con estas pruebas debemos lograr tener un entorno de
          compilaci&oacute;n que no es m&aacute;s ni menos que un gentoo base. A esta
          base debemos agregarle y hacer funcionar el kit de desarrollo
          para que podamos comenzar a compilar los primeros paquetes
          necesarios para la ISO.</div>
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        </div>
        <div>En cuanto al escritorio a utilizar es el XFCE, o por lo
          menos yo cre&iacute;a que ya estaba decidido, junto al Icewell,
          thunderbird y pidgin como mensajero. Luego LibreOffice, VLC y
          alg&uacute;n que otro paquete adicional que se considere esencial
          para la vida cotidiana.</div>
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        </div>
        <div>Saludos.</div>
        <div>Diego Cabo</div>
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      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-28 17:36 GMT-03:00 <a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:tranccuilo@openmailbox.org">tranccuilo@openmailbox.org</a>
          <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:tranccuilo@openmailbox.org" target="_blank">tranccuilo@openmailbox.org</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
              <div class="">
                <blockquote type="cite"> No se porque. Yo grabe la
                  imagen en un USB y la arranca perfectamente.<br>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
              Raro che que no arranquen en Vbox. Voy a chequear los
              parametros que le metes al mkisofs. <br>
              <div class="">
                <blockquote type="cite"> Mi problema no es en s&iacute; de la
                  imagen sino que arranca el promp y no lanza el
                  escritorio gr&aacute;fico.<br>
                  Mis interrogantes pasan por 2 temas antes de dar esta
                  imagen por "fenix" Huevo (alfa); uno es el proceso a
                  seguir para liberar este kernel gentoo o basta con
                  poner en el config.make la variable LICCENSE= "Free"?
                  Y la otra resolver que escritorio -y que se lance al
                  arrancar-; que instalador usamos y que manejador de
                  paquetes- porque si bien habra personas que prefieran
                  usar fuentes y compilar durante horas para tener un
                  sistema a medida para su m&aacute;quina otros preferiran
                  descargar y trabajar por lo que necesitamos definir un
                  manejador de binarios y un sistema de puertos. (que es
                  el origen de Portage)<br>
                </blockquote>
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              Si bien usamos el kernel-libre tambien tendriamos que
              meter la USE "deblob". Otra cosa; hace unas semanas
              hablando con alguien que estaba intentando crear una
              Gentoo 100% libre (como un gil borre el history del xchat
              y no me acuerdo la pagina que armo pero lo invite a
              inscribirse en la lista), me dijo que no bastaba solo con
              eso sino que habia que limpiar el portage porque tenia
              ebuilds no libres. No me parece raro porque si usamos los
              repos de Gentoo al hacer --sync nos los va a descargar
              aunque no los instalemos. La cosa es que si estan en el
              sistema no se si podemos decir que es 100% libre. Hasta
              que no tengamos nuestro propio repo con la paqueteria
              hecha en nuestro kit no va a haber solucion a eso.<br>
              En cuanto al escritorio seria LXDE o XFCE, yo me tiro mas
              por el segundo, ademas con esto de LXQT no se como quedo
              LXDE. Hace mucho que no lo uso -lxde-&nbsp; asi que si alguien
              sabe como esta que cuente. <br>
              El manejador de paquetes creo que tiene que ser Uget, no
              se si manejaba binarios, lo tenemos que adaptar a la base.
              <br>
              <div class=""> <br>
                <blockquote type="cite"> Si podemos ir colgando los logs
                  de lo que vamos haciendo mejor.<br>
                </blockquote>
              </div>
              Cuando la haga arrancar comparto :).<br>
              Saludos.
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                  <blockquote type="cite"> <br>
                    <div>On 27/08/14 23:13, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:tranccuilo@openmailbox.org"
                        target="_blank">tranccuilo@openmailbox.org</a>
                      wrote:<br>
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                      <div>Bueno ahi lo estuve probando y me lanza un
                        lindo kernel panic al iniciar la iso tuya y una
                        que hice yo intentando arreglarle el grub. <br>
                        <div><br>
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href="https://img.bi/#/YQRWYEG%21r5IXL0iERbSGDAFsrHu3gg9WIRy8GKlPES7XrWlb"
                            target="_blank">https://img.bi/#/YQRWYEG!r5IXL0iERbSGDAFsrHu3gg9WIRy8GKlPES7XrWlb</a></div>
                        <br>
                        Voy a revisar el grub y aviso si la puedo
                        arrancar.<br>
                        <br>
                        Saludos.<br>
                        <br>
                      </div>
                      <blockquote type="cite"> <a
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                          href="http://www.mediafire.com/download/n0h86e0pdchwd99/nombre.iso"
                          target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/download/n0h86e0pdchwd99/nombre.iso</a><br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.mediafire.com/download/96ejcigk2swf12d/source.tar.gz"
                          target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/download/96ejcigk2swf12d/source.tar.gz</a><br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://www.mediafire.com/download/uuejudsnen27ncy/target.tar.gz"
                          target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/download/uuejudsnen27ncy/target.tar.gz</a><br>
                        <br>
                        Bueno esta es mi entorno de desarrollo.<br>
                        Basicamente hay que crear una carpeta llamada
                        livecd o UTUTO y descomprimir la carpeta source
                        y target dentro de ella.<br>
                        cuando entras como chroot haces todos los
                        cambios en Source.<br>
                        entras como root<br>
                        su<br>
                        pasword<br>
                        <b
                          style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">mount
                          -o bind /proc proc/<br>
                        </b><b
                          style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">mount
                          -o bind /sys sys/</b><br>
                        <b
                          style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">mount
                          -o bind /dev dev/<br>
                        </b><b
                          style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">mount
                          -o bind /usr/portage/distfiles
                          usr/portage/distfiles<br>
                        </b> <b
                          style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">chroot
                          . /bin/bash --login<br>
                        </b> <b
                          style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">env-update

                          &amp;&amp; source /etc/profile<br>
                          <br>
                          Hago los cambios,.... agrego
                          paqueteria,...arreglo algo y listo<br>
                          <br>
                          Salgo desmontado todo<br>
                          <br>
                        </b><b
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Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">umount
                          proc sys dev usr/portage/distfiles<br>
                        </b><b>Exit<br>
                          <br>
                          Vuelvo a root<br>
                          su<br>
                          pasword<br>
                        </b> <b
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Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">cd

                          /usuario/live-gentoo/</b><br>
                        <b
                          style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">rsync
                          --archive --hard-links --quiet<span>&nbsp;</span><span
                            style="color:red">source</span>/boot target/<br>
                        </b> <span><span>&nbsp;</span></span><b
                          style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">rsync
                          --archive --hard-links<span>&nbsp;</span><span
                            style="color:red">source</span>/
                          target/files/<span style="color:purple">source<br>
                          </span></b>
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                          <b style="font-weight:700">rm -rf
                            target/files/source/var/run/*</b></blockquote>
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                          <span>&nbsp;</span><b style="font-weight:700">rm
                            -rf target/files/source/var/tmp/*</b></blockquote>
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Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                          <span>&nbsp;</span><b style="font-weight:700">rm
                            -rf target/files/source/var/cache/*</b></blockquote>
                        <blockquote style="padding:10px;margin:10px 0px
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Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                          <span>&nbsp;</span><b style="font-weight:700">rm
                            -rf target/files/source/var/log/*</b></blockquote>
                        <blockquote style="padding:10px;margin:10px 0px
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                          50px;font-size:14px;border-left-width:5px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(238,238,238);text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);border-bottom-width:2px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(30,30,30);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                          <span>&nbsp;</span><b style="font-weight:700">rm
                            -rf target/files/source/usr/portage</b></blockquote>
                        <blockquote style="padding:10px;margin:10px 0px
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Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                          <span>&nbsp;</span><b style="font-weight:700">rm
                            -rf target/files/source/etc/portage</b></blockquote>
                        <blockquote style="padding:10px;margin:10px 0px
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                          50px;font-size:14px;border-left-width:5px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(238,238,238);text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);border-bottom-width:2px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(30,30,30);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                          <span>&nbsp;</span><b style="font-weight:700">rm
                            -rf target/files/source/usr/src</b></blockquote>
                        <blockquote style="padding:10px;margin:10px 0px
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Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                          <span>&nbsp;</span><b style="font-weight:700">rm
                            -rf target/files/source/root/*</b></blockquote>
                        <blockquote style="padding:10px;margin:10px 0px
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                          50px;font-size:14px;border-left-width:5px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(238,238,238);text-align:justify;color:rgb(0,0,0);border-bottom-width:2px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(30,30,30);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                          <span>&nbsp;</span><b style="font-weight:700">rm
                            -rf target/files/source/tmp/*</b></blockquote>
                        <b
                          style="font-weight:700;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Helvetica
Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.600000381469727px;text-align:justify;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">mksquashfs

                          target/files/source/ target/livecd.squashfs<br>
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