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Marcos Guglielmetti marcospcmusica en gmail.com
Sab Jun 7 00:46:59 CEST 2008


El Sábado, 7 de Junio de 2008 05:23, Diego Saravia escribió:
 | El día 6 de junio de 2008 18:34, Marcos Guglielmetti
 |
 | <marcospcmusica en gmail.com> escribió:
 | > El Sábado, 7 de Junio de 2008 04:30, Diego Saravia escribió:
 | >  | > Curioso, siendo que Chavez recomienda varias veces leer al
 | >  | > anarquista Noam Chomsky... hay muchos tipos de anarquismo,
 | >  | > incluso Chomsky hasta apoya en ciertas ocasiones al Estado,
 | >  | > como una forma de transición..... tengo que leerlo más, me
 | >  | > parece muy inteligente y lúcido
 | >  |
 | >  | chomsky anarquista?
 | >
 | > claro que sí, es un referente del socialismo libertario, una
 | > vertiente del anarquismo, tenés muchos escritos de él desde esa
 | > postura, hace poco salió un librito en página 12
 |
 | he leido bastante a chomsky, ademas de haberlo escuchado varias
 | veces en los foros sociales mundiales, pero sobre todo es
 | interesante encuestiones linguisticas, no calificaria su 
 | pensamiento como anarquista, pero en fin que lo diga el

Él si lo califica, el link que pasás lo demuestra más claro que nada.



 | ahi tenes una entrevista sobre su vision
 | http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/rbr/noamrbr2.html

Linda entrevista! gracias :D

Un sitio anarquista... una entrevista a un anarquista...

...
"CHOMSKY: The general intellectual culture, as you know, 
associates 'anarchism' with chaos, violence, bombs, disruption, and 
so on. So people are often surprised when I speak positively of 
anarchism and identify myself with leading traditions within it."...


dónde está la duda?

"Noam Chomsky is widely known for his critique of U.S foreign policy, 
and for his work as a linguist. Less well known is his ongoing 
support for libertarian socialist objectives. In a special interview 
done for Red and Black Revolution, Chomsky gives his views on 
anarchism and marxism, and the prospects for socialism now. The 
interview was conducted in May 1995 by Kevin Doyle."

Clarísimo, es menos conocido por ser anarquista, o sea, socialista 
libertario, que por ser lingüista.

Es decir que vos tampoco escapás a ese "desconocimiento", o en todo 
caso lo ves diferente, está bien.


"RBR: First off, Noam, for quite a time now you've been an advocate 
for the anarchist idea. Many people are familiar with the 
introduction you wrote in 1970 to Daniel Guerin's Anarchism: From 
Theory to Practice, but more recently, for instance in the film 
Manufacturing Dissent, you took the opportunity to highlight again 
the potential of anarchism and the anarchist idea. What is it that 
attracts you to anarchism?"

"CHOMSKY: I was attracted to anarchism as a young teenager, as soon as 
I began to think about the world beyond a pretty narrow range, and 
haven't seen much reason to revise those early attitudes since. I 
think it only makes sense to seek out and identify structures of 
authority, hierarchy, and domination in every aspect of life, and to 
challenge them; unless a justification for them can be given, they 
are illegitimate, and should be dismantled, to increase the scope of 
human freedom. That includes political power, ownership and 
management, relations among men and women, parents and children, our 
control over the fate of future generations (the basic moral 
imperative behind the environmental movement, in my view), and much 
else. Naturally this means a challenge to the huge institutions of 
coercion and control: the state, the unaccountable private tyrannies 
that control most of the domestic and international economy, and so 
on. But not only these. That is what I have always understood to be 
the essence of anarchism: the conviction that the burden of proof has 
to be placed on authority, and that it should be dismantled if that 
burden cannot be met. Sometimes the burden can be met. If I'm taking 
a walk with my grandchildren and they dart out into a busy street, I 
will use not only authority but also physical coercion to stop them. 
The act should be challenged, but I think it can readily meet the 
challenge. And there are other cases; life is a complex affair, we 
understand very little about humans and society, and grand 
pronouncements are generally more a source of harm than of benefit. 
But the perspective is a valid one, I think, and can lead us quite a 
long way.

Beyond such generalities, we begin to look at cases, which is where 
the questions of human interest and concern arise."



etc

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Actividades que sería bueno seguir realizando: Dialogar con gremios 
docentes y centros de estudiantes.

Decile NO! a la privatización de la educación en Argentina
0. "Plan de alfabetización digital en base a Software Libre"
1.  Informate: http://educarsincadenas.com.ar

2. Te interesa? Unite a una lista de mail específica.

Argentina: http://gleducar.org.ar/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gleducar
Universidades: 
http://gleducar.org.ar/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/universidad-libre
Iberoamérica: 
http://rshg010.dnsready.net/mailman/listinfo/coordinadores_educarsincadenas.org
Buenos Aires, activismo: 
http://rshg010.dnsready.net/mailman/listinfo/bsas_educarsincadenas.org

3. Conocés alguien a quien pueda interesarle?
Debemos llegar a los gremios docentes, no-docentes y centros de 
estudiantes
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