[Solar-general] Re: [Softwarelibre] Noticias sobre demoras de Etch :(

[Martin Olivera]

parece ser que por problemas de plata (objeciones sobre quien cobra y quien no) se esta atrasando la 
salida de Debian Etch. Un debate para seguir de cerca, puede darnos pistas sobre como hacer 
proyectos de SL sustentables.

Medardo Rodriguez wrote:
> Dec. 18, 2006
> 
>  Debian GNU/Linux 4.0,   codenamed Etch, had been due to arrive by
> December 4, 2006, but it's been   delayed because some developers have
> deliberately slowed down their work.
> 
> According   to a blog   note by Andreas Barth, Debian developer and
> release manager, the delay has   resulted because "Some people who
> used to do good work reduced their   involvement drastically. There
> was nothing I could do about, and that   happened way before I started
> full-time on release, but on the global picture   that still counts."
> 
>  It appears that these developers have pulled back from working on
> Debian because of their   objections to Barth and fellow release
> manager, Steve Langasek, being paid to   work on Debian by the
> Dunc-Tank.org.
> 
>  Dunc-Tank.org is a group of Debian developers that set about
> raising funds to   be used for "financially supporting the volunteers
> working on managing   the release process, allowing them to devote
> their full attention to that task."   Specifically, the group's goal
> was to raise enough funds to pay "both   release managers enough to
> work exclusively on the release of etch for a   month each, having
> Steve Langasek available full-time during October and   Andreas Barth
> available full-time during November, with the release expected   to
> follow soon after in the first week of December."
> 
>  The group wanted to do this because Debian has a long history of
> being late.   That, in fact, is one reason why the Debian-based Ubuntu
> distribution was started.
> 
>  Dunc-Tank's membership includes Anthony Towns, the Debian Leader,
> Steve   McIntyre, the assistant to the Debian Leader, prominent Debian
> developers   Raphael Hertzog and Joey Hess, and well-known Debian and
> Linux kernel   developer Ted Ts'o.
> 
>  Many Debian developers denounced   the Dunc-Tank proposal. Some
> even demanded that Towns be removed as   leader because he supported
> Dunc-Tank. Their objection was that by   financially supporting
> developers, Debian would become a two-class system and   that, in
> turn, would be destructive to the Debian community.
> 
>  When the matters came up for a vote in October, the Dunc-Tank
> plan won approval and the attempt to remove Towns failed.
> 
>  That, however, did not turn out to be the end of the matter. Many
> developers,   led by Joerg Jaspert,   a well-known Debian maintainer
> and programmer, issued a position statement on October 26. In this
> statement, which was   published on the Debian developers'
> announcement list, the developers spelled   out why they objected to
> the Dunc-Tank initiative.
> 
>  Jaspert also said that Dunc-Tank "has demotivated a lot of people
> who   now either resigned, simply stopped doing (parts of their)
> Debian work or are   doing a lot less than they did before DT was
> started. The freeze got delayed   and getting the release out on
> schedule has become nearly impossible. We are   unable to see any good
> virtue in this 'experiment.' "
> 
>  "The heated discussion DT has consumed an incredible amount of time
> and   energy that could also have been used in a much more productive
> way,"   Jaspert added. "This was probably expected from the DT
> initiators but   didn't keep them from setting off this discussion at
> such an important time   -- shortly before the release. Why they
> didn't introduce DT *after* the   release, or much earlier in this
> release cycle, when there is/was time and a   lengthy discussion would
> not have taken otherwise needed time is not   understandable."
> 
>  It's turned out that Jaspert was correct. The next release of
> Debian has been   delayed because developers have stayed away from
> working on Debian because of   their objections to two of the
> developers being paid.
> 
>  As Barth wrote, "So, looking at the status changes during the time
> I   spent full-time on release issues I think it worked well. Of
> course, not   everything is perfect, but there is a clear improvement.
> On the other hand,   there was a large disadvantage of the whole
> experiment."
> 
>  Barth also announced that Etch is now fully frozen. He did not say,
> however,   when Etch will finally be released.
> 
>  -- Steven   J. Vaughan-Nichols
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