[Solar-general] LINK sobre fedora, redhat y su fundacion (en ingles)

Pablo Barrera Franco [gmail] pablobarrera.info en gmail.com
Mie Abr 12 18:43:17 CEST 2006


Quiero aclarar que Fedora no se detiene por este tema de la finalización de
la fundación de la orga. El proyecto Fedora seguira en pie, y estara mucho
mas controlable y por sobre todas las cosas, el proyecto (dado el reclamos
de muchos Fedora Ambassadors) debera seguir los lineamientos que deseemos.

No es ni siquiera un traspie, es sencillamente ser pragmatico.
P.


2006/4/12, Diego Saravia <dsa en unsa.edu.ar>:
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> http://os.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/10/2156233
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> FUDCon and folding the Fedora Foundation
> Tuesday April 11, 2006 (08:00 PM GMT)
> By: Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
>
>   Printer-friendly   Email story
> BOSTON, MASS. -- Last Friday, after the LinuxWorld Conference & Expo, I
> sat in
> on the fifth Fedora User and Developer Conference (FUDCon) at the Boston
> University School of Management. Some of the buzz in the halls concerned
> Red
> Hat's announcement of the end of the Fedora Foundation (about which more
> in a
> moment), but there were some good talks too.
>
> Fedora founder Warren Togami's "Welcome to Fedora" talk dealt with the
> history
> of Fedora, and how Fedora operates. Togami spent a fair amount of time
> emphasizing how important Fedora is to Red Hat's business, and trying to
> dispel the notion that Fedora is only a "perpetual beta" for Red Hat's
> enterprise products. This was tricky, since Fedora is a perpetual beta for
> Red
> Hat's enterprise products. However, Togami tried to emphasize the
> importance
> of Fedora to Red Hat's business, and also talked about how Fedora has a
> wider
> scope than simply being a beta. Togami also discussed Red Hat's intentions
> to
> increase community involvement in Fedora Core and to allow direct
> contributions to Fedora. Increased community involvement is something that
> Red
> Hat has been promising for a long time, so it will be interesting to see
> what
> Red Hat actually delivers, and when.
>
> The future of Fedora
>
> Jeremy Katz was originally slated to discuss Xen, but decided to change
> the
> discussion topic to what's coming in Fedora Core 6. As far as I'm
> concerned,
> this was a change for the better, since I was curious to hear what the
> Fedora
> folks were planning for the next release.
>
> Unfortunately, a great deal of discussion focused on the Fedora release
> schedule rather than the actual features that would be added or changed in
> the
> next release. Attendees tossed around several ideas about extending or
> changing the release cycle from six months to nine months, but the general
> consensus was that Fedora should stay on a six-month schedule to stay in
> sync
> with GNOME, X.org, and other projects that tend to release on a six-month
> cycle.
>
> If the tentative schedule holds, it looks like FC6 test 1 should be
> released
> around June 7, and a final FC6 release should be available around
> September
> 20, though those dates are subject to revision.
>
> After the schedule discussion settled down, Katz and the audience
> brainstormed
> on possible features for FC6, including an FC live CD, support for Apple's
> Intel Macs, improvements to configuration tools, putting the Fedora
> Directory
> Server in the Fedora core or extras repositories, and a number of other
> new
> features and improvements.
>
> A few attendees asked about the possibility of having a single installer
> CD,
> or having partition resizing in the installer -- both of which seemed to
> be
> shot down at the meeting. Katz suggested that it would take too much
> developer
> time to add partition resizing in the installer.
>
> Though it's possible to do a minimal install using a single Fedora CD or
> the
> first two CDs, a few folks were hoping to have a single install CD like
> Ubuntu's. Apparently, the reason this isn't likely is because the Fedora
> Project wants the installation CDs to provide a "self-hosting"
> environment,
> which isn't possible using a single CD.
>
> Fedora Foundation folded
>
> I would have liked to have stayed to the end of the show for Max Spevack's
> "The State of the Fedora" talk, where Spevack was supposed to talk about
> the
> Foundation and the new Fedora leadership model, but I had to leave after
> the
> lunch break to catch my plane back home. However, I did have a chance to
> sit
> down the day before with Red Hat's Community Development Manager Greg
> DeKoenigsberg to discuss the end of the foundation and what Red Hat plans
> to
> do going forward.
>
> The Foundation was originally meant to be repository for patents to help
> protect open source, and eventually morphed into what Spevack called "a
> potential tool to solve all sorts of Fedora-related issues."
>
> "Every Fedora issue became a nail for the Foundation hammer, and the scope
> of
> the Foundation quickly became too large for efficient progress."
>
> According to DeKoenigsberg, the Open Invention Network (OIN) came along
> after
> the Foundation was announced and filled the role the Foundation was
> supposed
> to hold with regards to software patents.
>
> Then the question of forming the Foundation as an independent, non-profit
> organization became something of a problem, since the majority of support
> for
> Fedora comes from Red Hat, and non-profit organizations should not receive
> more than one-third of their support from a single source. It was unlikely
> that Fedora would become self-sustaining. The colocation and bandwidth
> costs
> for Fedora alone are more than $1 million, according to DeKoenigsberg.
>
> Another reason that the Foundation idea was scrapped is that it's not in
> Red
> Hat's interests for the Fedora Foundation to operate independently of Red
> Hat.
> According to Spevack's announcement:
>
>     Red Hat *must* maintain a certain amount of control over Fedora
> decisions,
> because Red Hat's business model *depends* upon Fedora. Red Hat
> contributes
> millions of dollars in staff and resources to the success of Fedora, and
> Red
> Hat also accepts all of the legal risk for Fedora. Therefore, Red Hat will
> sometimes need to make tough decisions about Fedora. We won't do it often,
> and
> when we do, we will discuss the rationale behind such decisions as openly
> as
> we can -- as we did with the recent Mono decision.
>
>     But just because Red Hat has veto power over decisions, it does not
> follow
> that Red Hat wants to use that power. Nor does it follow that Red Hat must
> make all of the important decisions about Fedora. In fact, effective
> community
> decision making is one of the most direct measures of Fedora's success.
>
> In place of the Foundation, Red Hat has reformed a Fedora Project Board,
> which
> will include community members and Red Hat employees to guide the
> direction of
> the Fedora Project. The board starts out with nine members, five from Red
> Hat
> and four from the community, and a Red Hat-appointed chairman with veto
> power
> but no vote on the board.
>
> Spevack will be chairman of the board, and Red Hat employees Bill
> Nottingham,
> Elliot Lee, Chris Blizzard, Rahul Sundaram, and Katz will represent Red
> Hat on
> the board. Rex Dieter, Paul W. Frields, and Seth Vidal are the community
> members announced thus far by Red Hat. DeKoenigsberg says that the company
> has
> approached a fourth community member, and was waiting for his decision as
> of
> last week.
>
> Beyond the "bootstrap board," DeKoenigsberg says most of the details of
> the
> Fedora Project's governance model have not been ironed out just yet. He
> did
> say that he expected that the board would be term-limited with alternating
> terms so that the board would always have experienced members serving.
>
> It's also yet to be decided how the board members will be chosen, but
> DeKoenigsberg says that he expects that at least some of the members will
> be
> elected by the community -- and it will need to be decided what set of
> community members are allowed to vote.
>
> DeKoenigsberg says that he expects the board to work on opening up Fedora
> Core
> to allow contributions from outside of Red Hat engineering, because
> there's no
> need for Red Hat engineering to control those packages. "If you look at
> Core,
> there's not more than 10 to 20% that Red Hat cares about at any given
> time."
> For example, MySQL or Vim could easily be maintained by developers outside
> of
> Red Hat engineering. However, Red Hat may want to manage packages that are
> part of the bleeding edge, in areas where Red Hat is trying to get
> software
> ready for enterprise releases, such as Xen.
>
> Since much of the structure for the Fedora Project Board is up in the air,
> DeKoenigsberg says that they should be releasing regular updates, and
> posting
> minutes of their meetings so that other members of the Fedora community
> can
> see what's being done.
>
> Future FUDCons
>
> Overall, FUDCon had a nice community feel to it, very casual, with lots of
> enthusiastic Fedora users and developers were in attendance. I was
> disappointed I couldn't attend some of the later sessions, particularly
> the
> MIT OpenCourseWare session and the MythTV session.
>
> If you couldn't make it to FUDCon Boston 2006, don't fret -- it won't be
> the
> last one this year. The FUDCon organizers are already planning a FUDCon
> for
> August 18 in San Francisco after the LinuxWorld Conference & Expo there.
> --
> Diego Saravia
> dsa en unsa.edu.ar
> Diego.Saravia en gmail.com (usar solo si hay problemas con unsa.edu.ar)
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