<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hello you all (perdón por el inglés para la lista en español). <br><br></div>Nice to see that hostility is going down, Michel. As you know, the whole process and futures fork of FLOK are quite important. Having commited all the parts mistakes and havind a such a difficult scenarium (it is politic!), it would be childish to keep on fighting among us. I think that the 1%, the elite, is quite united, and that they will be enyoing this. But, anyway, the discussion, being constructive is always good. <br>
<br></div>You always speak about Gordon Cook, Michel. Among all the things you say..., by my side side there are just two things, that by, the way I just wrote in a mail feed (just one) in the most intense moment of the fight (before the summit) and never insisted in mailing lists, networks etc Even feeling that Cook Report is not fair and that he got private information from private communication, I did not comment it anywhere, never. I said that Gordon published copyright his whole life, until Cook Report. And that is ture. I said, in that moment, that 'defending a neocon' that uses NSA tactics (violating privacy) was not good idea. Reading some of his works, may be yes, he is not the classeical neocon, even more progressive than I thougt, havind some clear liberal ideas, that I respect, of course. So, I can beg your pardon Gordon, for saying that defending a neocon is not a good idea. And feel quite happy that your are not and that I am able to recognize mistakes!<br>
<br></div>But what we need is more version, stories about the FLOK not just yours, Michel. I understand that your not so optimistic now and that you felt dissapointed by some things. But there are such fantastic things that happened and that are still happening around the process, that it would be nice to light the positive things. Above, you can see a mail to a Spanish list from Daniel Vàzquez, director of the FLOK. Michel was in charge of the research that was part of a quite bigger process. <br>
</div>I see, with some perspective, see some fantastic points of FLOK process: <br><br></div><b>-FLOK as Method.</b> A new method for connecting academy with civil society, for connecting academy to politics, for connecting networks and movements to public policy. We have to remember that FLOK started as a quite top down project, more Goverment than civil society. And that now is completly different . The Summit was the prove that so many movements, networks, local leaders, indigenous people, hackers, worked hand by hand with politicians from local, regional and State. <br>
<br></div><b>-FLOK as a prototype</b>. It was fantastic: all the papers of the research were considered drafts. A source code improved by collective intelligence. it is not easy for researchers to acknowledge that. And we have to flatter all of them. It was exciting to see George Dafermos, Restakis and Michel Bauwes seated with local people, working in this new academic prototype, real time public policy method. Just as an academic prototype it is quite an innovation. Here the PAD we created in Communication Team for openning the research: <a href="http://floksociety.org/pad/p/comunicainvestiga">http://floksociety.org/pad/p/comunicainvestiga</a> Even having done just a part, the work made, leaded by Michel, the one who used more networked methods in the research, was amazing. So, FLOK is an academic new sorce font remixing method. <br>
<br></div>-<b>Extitutions: new institucionality.</b> Some how, FLOK became a new type of institution, and in-out institution, a liquid one, not exactly State not exactly civil society, with some independet corners, commosn oriented, working inside the machine to create public policy. I like very much the concept of Extitución (spanish link), former institution <a href="http://viveroiniciativasciudadanas.net/2012/07/05/extitucion-netizens-y-mas/">http://viveroiniciativasciudadanas.net/2012/07/05/extitucion-netizens-y-mas/</a> <br>
<div><br> <br></div><div>For all of this, It would be nice to get more versions of FLOK. Now, there are 14 ecuatorian leaders working with the last part of this first era of FLOK and thinking how to implement de pilot projects. For me, It would complete this source font of the research with real projects, real time prorotypes. And would be wonderfull. Let´s ask them!<br>
<br></div><div>About the Partner State, Michel. I think that may be Ecuador is not prepared . I am sure that your commitment will develop this in other country in the next years. In my opinion, in Ecuador, the prototyping method of public policy has more chances of being real than the Partner State.<br>
<br></div><div>Thanks for flattering now the communication strategy, at least the guerrilla part. But in my 20 years in communication and have done (and do) many different things beyond guerrilla. From El Pais to Squire, from National Geographic to La Repubblica, from CLarin to Al Jazzera, I have publish (still do ) in some of the most important newspapers and magazines of the world. In the last years, my commitment with copylef is so big that I just write in copyleft media (many, just look for my name in the web). I research in academy (in the group of Manuel Castells), do consultant work for the commons, publish books (the last, collective, with Michael Hardt and Toni Negri) and I am jury of differente prizes, now ofr Gabriel García Márquez Journalims Prize (the most important in Latin America), in Technology field. So, I have some differente communicational aproches to share. I did share them in FLOK process. And, being honest, I think it worked in the creation of participation. <br>
<br><br><br></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Best (above the mail of FLOK´s Director)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Bernardo<br></div><div><br><table class="" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr class=""><td class=""><table class="" cellpadding="0">
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</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>Hola!<br>
<br>
Me apena ver que a veces todas (incluso personas muy inteligentes)<br>
pierden o perdemos la perspectiva sobre discusiones/estrategia, entrando<br>
en análisis de pobre calidad más guiados por sentimientos o pesimismo<br>
que sobre posibilidades, personalizando y en negativo frente a la linea<br>
más interesante de analizar en colectivo y pensar en vías de superación,<br>
en acciones que abran el escenario y permitan seguir avanzando con<br>
transformaciones que son un sueño.<br>
<br>
Por supuesto, toda crítica o análisis es bienvenido, yo al menos me<br>
permito descartar los que no considero relevantes, por falta de tiempo,<br>
pero tambien ya sea en algunos casos por superficiales o por no incidir<br>
en construcción colectiva.<br>
<br>
Quizás lo hago por que es obvio que no existe un proceso de medio o gran<br>
tamaño sin fallos, o porque los personalismos o fallos humanos en una<br>
acción colectiva me resultan irrelevantes, prefiero centrarme más en las<br>
posibilidades que se abren.<br>
<br>
Desde ahí, el post de Michel es comprensible, tras un proceso de trabajo<br>
muy complejo en muy poco tiempo como ha sido FLOK me parece más un post<br>
de desahogo de estres que cualquier tipo de análisis meditado, creo que<br>
leyéndolo se ve claro, y que no hay que darle más transcendencia que<br>
esa. Obviamente no es su mejor contribución, pero tampoco tiene porqué<br>
serlo, Michel puede y debe escribir lo que quiera.<br>
<br>
A Michel y a Bernardo hay que darles las gracias por lo que han hecho,<br>
incluso aunque ellos o yo nos hayamos equivocado en cosas (imposible no<br>
hacerlo en un reto de 8 meses, debatiendo con más de 1500 personas,<br>
hablando con más de 45 instituciones y decenas de colectivos y decenas<br>
de expertos) han contribuido con sus aportes (al igual que las otras<br>
25-30 personas que también han colaborado directamente, ni más ni menos)<br>
a que ahora mismo un montón de movimientos sociales y académicos estén<br>
debatiendo con las instituciones cómo aplicar las políticas públicas<br>
propuestas que hemos construido de forma colectiva.<br>
<br>
Y mientras esa multitud se organiza, debate y construye, algunas miran<br>
nombres y apellidos y se enredan en ver una "telenovela" muy personal;<br>
la pena es que mientras lo hacen o lo hacemos se pierden o nos perdemos<br>
algo increíble, mucho más grande que cualquier nombre y apellido, se<br>
pierden que lo que queríamos que sucediera está sucediendo, las<br>
propuestas de políticas públicas caminan hacia su implementación (no<br>
todas serán posibles, que sean muchas dependerá de nuestra inteligencia<br>
colectiva) en instituciones clave. Los proyectos pilotos van todavía un<br>
poco más atrás y hay que empujarlos, esas serán las prioridades de los<br>
colectivos y expertos Ecuatorianos que la semana que viene comienzan a<br>
trabajar el plan de implementación, un lujo poder verlo :)<br>
<br>
Un abrazo, seguimos con temas más interesantes.<br>
<br>
P.D: Ahora mismo vivo con 2 compañeros del equipo de investigación de<br>
FLOK, y es un lujo pensar y analizar con ellos, nuestras emocionantes<br>
discusiones van algo más allá de los clásicos atrasos de cualquier<br>
administración pública en realizar pagos, andan apasionados por empujar<br>
los proyectos pilotos que discuten con muchos compis ecuatorianos, ojalá<br>
podemos seguir ayudándoles con eso<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-07-06 0:57 GMT-03:00 Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">ok, Gordon, we are going to try to avoid the understandable hostility here f, and I realize you are still seething for what happened to you. I have suggested to Bernardo to apologize for the falsehoods he spread , but let's leave it at that here and try to have a civilized debate based on the facts. Bernardo is adult enough to face his conscience. I have apologized many times to you so don't need to redo it here I hope <g>.<div>
<br></div><div>For your info, Bernardo was co-responsible for communication and did an excellent job on that front. He is spanish but lives in Brazil and well-known for his skills in guerilla communication.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Gordon Cook <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cook@cookreport.com" target="_blank">cook@cookreport.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Here is the requested url michel</div><div><br></div><div><div>While Michel is preparing his report, anyone wishing to read mine may hit this URL</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.cookreport.com/pdfs/July-augCRecuadorfinal.pdf" style="font-size:12px" target="_blank">http://www.cookreport.com/pdfs/July-augCRecuadorfinal.pdf</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>hidden i.e. not advertised on my web site.</div></div><div><br></div><div>I am curious as to where Bernardo came from? His was the outside media company hired by Daniel? You will see in the about my evidence of his changing the rules at the last hour for the summit thunderclap. Quite funny.</div>
<div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jul 5, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">I'm really sorry Bernardo, but your threat has been public and can be verified; second, if you publicly and privately threaten me, I don't think you have any moral authority to criticise that I make these threats public. I will send the URL of your facebook threat here a bit later. You will note that this facebook account with a few thousand followers, and with several dozen exclusively positive evaluations of my relatively positive evaluation of the flok process, none of them even 'liked' the threat. It was absolutely out of place, while a political discussion of flok is entirely in place. So here is the warning: please respond to political analysis by counter-analysis. But if you respond to analysis by threats and character assasination, you will find me on your way.<div>
<br></div><div>To deny that you did it won't work, and neither will be the argument that it was all meant of a joke. I know you are following a precedent. Somebody we both know accused Gordon Cook, of 1) not existing 2) being a front of Robert Steele 3) being a CIA agent 4) being an adolescent ranter 4) being a neocon. That person, who spent several hours online searching for proof, spread these accusations, and you gave credence to it by also spreading it. When exposed as lies, can you then simple say, after trying to repeatedly destroy a person's reputation.</div>
<div><br></div><div>And you still continue, you are shameless. Gordon Cook is the author of absolutely stellar reports on p2p infrastructures, which can be verified and read at the Gordon Cook report. His policy paper, which is excellent and breaks a lot of new ground, is also available online. I copy Gordon so he can provide the URL's.</div>
<div><br></div><div>We have to reiterate the case of what happened to Gordon Cook as it was exemplary. Like many other authors, Gordon Cook was promited $4,000 for a paper. This promise was then unilaterally changed to $3,500 on condition that he would attend the summit. Since Gordon had undergone a absolutely invasive and painful spinal operation, and needed a series of eye interventions to boot. I was physically present twice when the promise was made to him to facilitate the trip through a business class trip. Not once, but twice. That promise was then also broken. And no, the maximum was not done to make it possible. As has been already admitted, it was a conscious and political decision not to do it, not a force majeure.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Now, f..ups are always possible. But you know it is a pattern. Every person who was asked to leave the project has been systematically maligned. I'll review the list again, BH, an excellent journalist and communicator, was accused of being on the payroll of US intelligence for publishing a critical article; AD, was being branded as 'a spy of Senescyt' and was threatened with physical intimidation; a research team member was threatened with dismissal for expressing critique on the mailing list. In recent days, you have been publicly trashing both the work of the research team and the communication team. It's a paranoid style of politics and character assasination that has no place in an open culture. If you can't avoid trashing people, have the wisdom to do it indoors, but don't publish and spread unfounded and unproven accusations via the network.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I want to avoid speaking about this mess, it's not very interesting, unless as a generic lesson for the future: don't let hierarchies dominate participatory projects.</div><div><br></div><div>
Bernardo, I invite to challenge my political conclusions from now on, and I will avoid publishing the facts of my experience. You have failed to intimidate me in my right to politically evaluate flok, move on.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Take a hint from Daniel's approach in this controversy.</div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Bernardo Gutiérrez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bernardobrasil@gmail.com" target="_blank">bernardobrasil@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hello you all<br><br>I think there are several misunderstandings and some unfair accusation. Try to be polity and to explain the problems: <br>
<div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>In the last few days, I have been harassed and threatened by Bernardo Gutierrez, who tried to suppress the publication of an evalution of the FLOK process, which you can find here: <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-provisional-informal-assessment-of-the-flok-transition-process-in-ecaudor/2014/07/01" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/a-provisional-informal-assessment-of-the-flok-transition-process-in-ecaudor/2014/07/01</a></div>
<div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It is complitily false. Never tried .In fact, it is the first time that I know that you published in the blog. Our discussion started when I told you that it was not propor to share in FACEBOOK (it is quite clear in all of our mails), now, those critics to FLOK process, right now. Having had several problems, It is an important moment to know what it is going to happen. May it does not help. I valu your version, but desagree in several points. Correa (the president) invited the guest of the FLOK to the Cambio de Guardia. He spoke about FLOK in Sabatina. We were working with high level politicians, as Cancilleria (minister Patiño), Senplades and even people from presidency. So, I think it was not such an unknow project. In fact, it became, during and after the Summit a quite important project for the Whole Ecuatorian Goverment <br>
</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>In this text, I simply make a political evalution of my 6 months in Ecuador, as I see it, as I believe was both my right (of free speech), and a duty to the p2p community, who has been asking for it. It is in my view a moderate and considered political evaluation, though of course, as my opinion, open to critique and counter-argumentation.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think it is good, Michel, And you are an importante person in the process. <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br></div><div>While I would have accepted a conversation asking me to postpone it, in order to safeguard some potential backroom deal in Ecuador, instead BG thought it would be useful to publicly threaten the publication of my private emails, thinking this would frighten me. It doesn't, as I don't believe I write anything in private that can't see the light of the day. But private email involves other persons and I find it very ethically objectionable that he would use this as a threat.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Another big misanderstanding. I think it horrible to publish any private conversation. In fact, I am super critic with private conversation going public. I was joking and exagerating the fact that Gordon Cook violated privacy and made a report with that. Publishing in networks some things is not good. So, If you understand that, I am sorry. We have more people in that conversation, that probably did not undestand that. <br>
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<div><br></div><div>This is not the first time, a few months ago, Bernardo tried to suppress any balanced treatment of Fora do Eixo (<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Fora_do_Eixo" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Fora_do_Eixo</a>) and even objected to the mention of chilean groups that were somehow one day, connected with FdO. BG's totally unfounded accusation then was that "I defended FdO because I was getting a free PhD from Ivana Bentes". </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That is a private mail. PRIVATE CONVERSATION, Michel. But, well, I think that is my personal opinion, yes. I don´t need to hide it. <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div>It gave me a first insight into his unfair mindset. To be clear, I was not then nor am I now, neither defending nor attacking FdO, but the p2p-f is conceived as a pluralistic network to show different perspectives on an issue, helping people make their own decisions. We don't want to be factional and choose one side or another within the broad p2p community. I found it strange then that Bernardo was exerting pressure to have only one side of the story seen as legitimate, and refused an open debate on the merits of the critique. I could only be radically against FdO, no nuance was permitted.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br><br></div><div>That is not true. I asked you how did you make the list of p2p projects of the year. Almost all the node sof Brazil P2P branch were disgusted with that, none was consulted. . At the end, we knew it was more your list than P2p List. I am specially critic with FdO, but it is on you the aproach<br>
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<div><br></div><div>The second incident came with the aftermath of the FLOK. In the above evaluation, I avoid studiously to mention or critique internal matters, believing that it would only make matters worse. But I have had to suffer there the systematic unfounded accusations against my friends and associates: BG has simply reiterated and continue to spread unfounded accusations against excellent people I had the opportunity to work with : BT,, AD, GC, the research team , the communication team ... </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You are again publishing private conversations. With Gordon Cook we argued in the list, that is true. Not the rest. So I will deny that, because is quite far from reality. You also make big critics to many people (some of this list) in our conversations But I think it is not proper to divulgate here, Michel. Private conversation (me and you ) is private.<br>
<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>What is worse, even when I sent information to BG advising him not to re-iterate these accusations based on facts that I provided to him, he would continue spreading them, totally ignoring the counter-factuals I had sent him. For example, BG has coninued to spread disinfo about Gordon Cook that he is a neocon, opposed to copyleft, and other falsehoods, even after receiving documentation to the contrary. <br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">I feel sorry, Michel. But Gordon Cook has been publishing with Copy Right ever. He has a lot of problems, health, as well. The problem began when he told FLOk that he could only travel in business, because of his health problems. The management team tryed, but could no be that. The quality of the drafts sent was not good. Neither shape of paper neither quality. You did a nice job editing the second one amd transforming it into a goog paper. But for many reason, it was impossible to get the business ticket. And he started a war. The burocracy was terrible and he could not be paid (just coming to Ecuador). Believe that has nothing to do with me. After the dirty war he began (violating privacy and laws), he deserve to not be paid, in my opinion. <br>
<br><br><div><br></div><div>"Bernardo's attempt to suppress an independent evaluation is a proof of the latter. How would a healthy p2p process be endangered by an open discussion? The truth is that the flok attempted to create a mythology of success, and of political and social support that wasn't there, and that Bernardo's highly stage-managed twitter storms were part of that effort. "<br>
<br></div><div>I am not trying to suppress anything, Michel! I just told you that it was not propor to publish now in Facebook!!! in the moment of the reshaping of the project. I feel really sorry of your accusation about communication strategy. A Twitter Storm is a 1% of what we did. We created a strong participatory process, wiht personal meetings, seminars, speeches. We did wordk shop in 24 cities, with 500 local leaders (who were in the summit). we published more than 100 post un few months, we did many hang outs (many with researchers), p2pbeer. We worked with Cancilleria (international affair minister), with their Ecuela Revolución, people from 40 countries. We made meeting in squatters (with Restakis, researcher), we made cultural collaborative mappings, Mumble meetings etc etc. We presented in MAdrid, in the arab-latin american summit, in Media Lab Prado. All of that is communication. Communication is conection, and that is what happened. A twitter storm never work if there is no network. And we got it, with a lot of difficulties. At the begining it was a top down project. It became more organic. So, It is not a twitter storm, Michel. <br>
<br><br>"The very reason that BG is attempting to suppress an evualuation of the FLOK, is that it endangered potential backroom deals. My thesis is: if they are endangered by an open discussion, what value do these deals ultimately have?</div>
<div>I'm preparing an evaluative essay on "Hacker Bolchevism, the paranoid style of politics in p2p' to critique the non-prefigurative politics that were so characteristic of the FLOK internal process"<br>
<br><br></div><div>Your critics are necessary. In fact, I respect them. But I think that you do them in the wrong places (Facebook, this list, for example). The last Facebook schandal, some months ago, when they ought some money, was proper and worked. Not this one. <br>
<br></div><div><br></div><div>"Stalinistic tactics have no place in an open p2p culture".</div>
<div><br></div><div>It is commom sense, Michel. this mail of you, for examplo, is out of place in this moment<br></div><div><br></div><div>"I do not intend to pollute the p2p lists with these personal antagonisms (even as they reveal antagonistic value systems and political and metholodgical approaches). I will at most respond once to the counter-accusations that will undoubtedly follow this, but I can't tolerate public and private intimidation when I am no longer part of the flok team".<br>
<br></div><div>Sorry, but I think this is pollution. No one accusated you in any list. I never would do it. <br><br><br></div><div>It is me who think you should reconsider your position. We all have (researchers, management team, communication team) done an interesting and innovative worlk, begining from you and ending with the secretary. It would be a pitty to espoil that<br>
<br></div><div>Best<br>Bernardo</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><b>Please note an intrusion wiped out my inbox on February 8; I have no record of previous communication, proposals, etc ..</b></div>
<div><br></div>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br>
<br>#82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/</a> <br></div>
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@bernardosampa (twitter) / @futura_media<br><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">São Paulo <a href="tel:%2B55%2011%2043044380" value="+551143044380" target="_blank">+55 11 43044380</a> (fijo) +55 11 84881620 (celular)</span><br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><b>Please note an intrusion wiped out my inbox on February 8; I have no record of previous communication, proposals, etc ..</b></div><div>
<br></div>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br>
<br>#82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/</a> <br></div>
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<div><br></div>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br>
<br>#82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/</a> <br></div>
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@bernardosampa (twitter) / @futura_media<br><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">São Paulo +55 11 43044380 (fijo) +55 11 84881620 (celular)</span><br><div><div><div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div><div style="padding:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-top:0px;overflow:hidden;word-wrap:break-word;color:black;font-size:10px;text-align:left;line-height:130%">
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