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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Buenos d&iacute;as a todas!!<br>
      preparados en VIC para difundir tb.<br>
      <span class="">#Timof&oacute;nicaRobaElLab<br>
        abrazos<br>
        esau acosta<br>
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      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
Esa&uacute; Acosta
@desdevic
VIVERO DE INICIATIVAS CIUDADANAS.
(Urban Empowerment)
viveroiniciativasciudadanas.net</pre>
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      El 14/04/2014 2:15, Gila Intervenci&oacute;n escribi&oacute;:<br>
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cite="mid:CAMzdGKq-nK8R1vgOvL+eQwsQN7-T8MqnY9q2zG_E6y5zg71v9w@mail.gmail.com"
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          <div>Noooooo, en el link que ha puesto Javier no se ve el
            v&iacute;deo porque ha dicho que esa p&aacute;gina est&aacute; en privado hasta
            ma&ntilde;ana, pero seguro que ma&ntilde;ana se ve.<br>
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          El link directo al v&iacute;deo ya no es ese, que est&aacute; en el canal de
          Gila, sino este, que est&aacute; en el canal del Ayuntamiento:<br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGYYPSeycw8">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGYYPSeycw8</a><br>
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        Voy a borrar el de Gila para que no haya confusiones :-)<br>
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          El 14 de abril de 2014, 1:49, Bernardo Guti&eacute;rrez <span
            dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:bernardobrasil@gmail.com" target="_blank">bernardobrasil@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          escribi&oacute;:<br>
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              <div>Saludos,&nbsp;</div>
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              </div>
              <div>el link del video que hay en el PAD est&aacute; roto</div>
              <div><span
style="line-height:17px;padding-top:1px;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;padding-bottom:1px"><a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://savethelab.org/madrid-reservado-para-ti/"
                    target="_blank">http://savethelab.org/madrid-reservado-para-ti/</a></span><span
style="line-height:17px;padding-top:1px;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;padding-bottom:1px">&nbsp;</span><br>
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style="line-height:17px;padding-top:1px;font-size:13px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;padding-bottom:1px"><br>
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              El link bueno es&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tESqJkxNcY&amp;feature=youtu.be"
                target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tESqJkxNcY&amp;feature=youtu.be</a>
              ??
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              <div>Alguien por ah&iacute;? lo cambio enel PAD por si acaso</div>
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              <div>abs</div>
              <div>Bernardo</div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">El 10 de abril de 2014, 23:02,
                Gila Intervenci&oacute;n <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:gila.intervenciones@gmail.com"
                    target="_blank">gila.intervenciones@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                escribi&oacute;:
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                      <div dir="ltr">Bueno, pues a este tipo de cosas es
                        a las que me refer&iacute;a el otro d&iacute;a con hacer una
                        campa&ntilde;a del Ayuntamiento. El v&iacute;deo no est&aacute;
                        p&uacute;blico, porque la idea ser&iacute;a abrir un cabal
                        fake de esMadridtelevisi&oacute;n, subirlo ah&iacute; y
                        moverlo como si fuese real... O lo que se os
                        ocurra, claro. Sentiros libres de proponer o
                        criticar, claro :-)<br>
                        <br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tESqJkxNcY&amp;feature=youtu.be"
                          target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tESqJkxNcY&amp;feature=youtu.be</a><br>
                        <span><span><span dir="ltr"></span></span></span></div>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">El 10 de abril de 2014,
                          18:23, Alberto Corsin Jimenez <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:acorsin@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank">acorsin@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                          escribi&oacute;:
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                                <div dir="ltr">Noticia en EuropaPress:
                                  Ana Botella dice que no sabe nada de
                                  la operaci&oacute;n de traslado de
                                  Medialab-Prado.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.europapress.es/madrid/noticia-botella-disipa-dudas-posible-cesion-asegurando-no-tiene-conocimiento-operacion-alguna-serreria-belga-20140410144905.html"
                                    target="_blank">http://www.europapress.es/madrid/noticia-botella-disipa-dudas-posible-cesion-asegurando-no-tiene-conocimiento-operacion-alguna-serreria-belga-20140410144905.html</a><br>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-10
                                    8:22 GMT+02:00 Alba Santa <span
                                      dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:alba.santa@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">alba.santa@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Hola a todos,&nbsp;
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Un saludo desde
                                              Alicante. Igual que muchos
                                              no soy usuaria asidua al
                                              proyecto, pero si lo sigo
                                              desde la distancia y en la
                                              medida que he podido he
                                              participado en alguna
                                              actividad.&nbsp;</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Esta noticia es
                                              lamentable, aunque creo
                                              que todav&iacute;a hay mucho por
                                              hacer para que no se
                                              convierta en una realidad.
                                              Ahora bien, no se trata
                                              solo de que unos y otros
                                              son unos .... bien cierto
                                              es; creo que m&aacute;s bien
                                              estamos ante una pr&aacute;ctica
                                              bien com&uacute;n en nuestro
                                              pa&iacute;s, y es tener lo
                                              p&uacute;blico al servicio (y en
                                              el peor sentido del
                                              t&eacute;rmino) de estas escasas
                                              grandes empresas
                                              privilegiadas de este pa&iacute;s
                                              (telecomunicaciones,
                                              electricidad, energia,
                                              transportes... grandes
                                              ejemplos de expolio
                                              p&uacute;blico). Ojal&aacute; las
                                              peque&ntilde;as tuvieran la mitad
                                              de sus privilegios....</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Dicho esto, creo que es
                                              importante derrocar el
                                              discurso del otro, ese
                                              mensaje de "Open Future"
                                              con el que quieren
                                              apropiarse de un inmueble
                                              que ha costado a las arcas
                                              p&uacute;blicas millones de
                                              euros. &iquest;D&oacute;nde lo
                                              sustentan? &iquest;Acaso pintan
                                              algo las personas? &iquest;de
                                              d&oacute;nde esperan y c&oacute;mo sacar
                                              esos 20.000 o 30.000
                                              empleos en startup?
                                              Mentira, tras mentira, que
                                              el trabajo de
                                              Medialabprado en todo este
                                              tiempo puede demostrar y
                                              es lo que creo que ha de
                                              exponer, y ha puede
                                              hacerlo rode&aacute;ndose de
                                              todos los expertos
                                              locales, nacionales e
                                              internacionales que pasado
                                              por &eacute;l y han aportado su
                                              granito de arena a que
                                              MediaLabPrado sea lo que
                                              hoy es.&nbsp;</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>En s&iacute;ntesis, estamos en
                                              una guerra, un conflicto
                                              de inteses entre dos
                                              modelos contrapuestos:
                                              autogesti&oacute;n vs
                                              privaticaci&oacute;n para tener
                                              un control centralizado y
                                              en las manos de los que
                                              quieren continuar
                                              mandando. La autogesti&oacute;n
                                              les hace ceder control,
                                              tiene un gran poder y eso
                                              aterra.... lamenablemente,
                                              tenemos unas instituciones
                                              p&uacute;blicas en muchos casos
                                              miseras, que dejan de lado
                                              su responsabilidad
                                              p&uacute;blica... en nuestra mano
                                              est&aacute; hacer valer y saber
                                              esto para reforzar los
                                              modelos de autogesti&oacute;n
                                              como mecanismos esenciales
                                              de cohesi&oacute;n social y
                                              empleo.&nbsp;</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Espero haber podido
                                              ayudar y os sigo!</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Saludos,</div>
                                            <div>Alba&nbsp;</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
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                                            <br>
                                            <div class="gmail_quote">2014-04-10
                                              5:42 GMT+02:00 "Bernardo
                                              Guti&eacute;rrez" <span
                                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bernardobrasil@riseup.net" target="_blank">bernardobrasil@riseup.net</a>&gt;</span>:
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                                                    Montar un PAd con la
                                                    operaci&oacute;n 4G para
                                                    salvar el Lab?<br>
                                                    sigo pensando que
                                                    hay que hacer m&agrave;s
                                                    que un manifiesto y
                                                    aprovechar la
                                                    ocasi&oacute;n<br>
                                                    sigamos hablando<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    B<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Gila Intervenci&oacute;n
                                                    escreveu:<br>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <div>&gt; Yo no he
                                                        sido nunca muy
                                                        usuaria del
                                                        Medialab, pero
                                                        la cosa me
                                                        parece<br>
                                                        &gt;
                                                        impresentable,
                                                        claro. Igual me
                                                        llam&aacute;is loca,
                                                        pero lo primero
                                                        que me viene<br>
                                                        &gt; a<br>
                                                        &gt; la cabeza
                                                        es una campa&ntilde;a
                                                        de publicidad
                                                        del Ayuntamiento
                                                        de Madrid, que<br>
                                                        &gt; tras<br>
                                                        &gt; mucha duda
                                                        y flirteo, por
                                                        fin ha dado con
                                                        su modelo
                                                        cultural: la
                                                        cultura<br>
                                                        &gt; 4G.<br>
                                                        &gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;<br>
                                                        &gt; 2014-04-09
                                                        19:11 GMT+02:00
                                                        Michel Bauwens
                                                        &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>&gt;:<br>
                                                        &gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; Cc:
                                                        "P2P Foundation
                                                        - Lista de
                                                        correo en
                                                        espa&amp;#241,
                                                        ol" &lt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:p2p-lang-es@lists.ourproject.org" target="_blank">p2p-lang-es@lists.ourproject.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; Ok
                                                        gang. Here's the
                                                        article.
                                                        Tomorrow we can
                                                        publish the Open
                                                        Letter<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; they've
                                                        made calling out
                                                        for help (needs
                                                        some copyediting
                                                        here and<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; there)<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; and
                                                        we'll use Carla
                                                        Bosserman's
                                                        illustration.
                                                        Please share.<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-commons-at-stake-the-enclosure-of-medialab-prado/2014/04/09"
target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-commons-at-stake-the-enclosure-of-medialab-prado/2014/04/09</a><br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; Aqu&iacute;
                                                        ten&eacute;is un
                                                        llamamiento en
                                                        el blog de la
                                                        Fundaci&oacute;n junto
                                                        a la<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;
                                                        traducci&oacute;n de un
                                                        art&iacute;culo de
                                                        Bernardo del a&ntilde;o
                                                        pasado sobre
                                                        Media-Lab,<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; para<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; dar
                                                        contexto.<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; On Wed,
                                                        Apr 9, 2014 at
                                                        9:53 AM, Stacco
                                                        Troncoso<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; &lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:staccotroncoso@gmail.com"
                                                          target="_blank">staccotroncoso@gmail.com</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;&gt; Ok,
                                                        I can't take on
                                                        a full
                                                        translation (not
                                                        this week
                                                        anyway), so what<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;&gt; I'm
                                                        doing is writing
                                                        an intro,
                                                        explaining the
                                                        situation to
                                                        give some<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;&gt;
                                                        context and,
                                                        then,
                                                        republishng our
                                                        translation of
                                                        Bernardo's
                                                        article<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;
                                                        _______________________________________________<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; Wiki: <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint"
target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint</a><br>
                                                        &gt;&gt; Lista <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-lang-es"
target="_blank">https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-lang-es</a><br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;&gt;<br>
                                                        &gt;
                                                        _______________________________________________<br>
                                                        &gt; Wiki: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint</a><br>
                                                        &gt; Lista <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-lang-es"
target="_blank">https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-lang-es</a><br>
                                                        &gt;<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                        Wiki: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint</a><br>
                                                        Lista <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-lang-es"
target="_blank">https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-lang-es</a><br>
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_______________________________________________<br>
                                          Wiki: <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint"
                                            target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint</a><br>
                                          Lista <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
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                        target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint</a><br>
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                          value="+551143044380" target="_blank">+55 11
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              href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint"
              target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Spanish_P2P_WikiSprint</a><br>
            Lista <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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              target="_blank">https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-lang-es</a><br>
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