<div dir="ltr">ok, let's see if any contributors/coordinators emerge , will check your EE resource,<div><br></div><div>Michel</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 10:04 PM, George Pór <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:george.por@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.por@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>My publishing capacity is fully taken by, at least for now, till I design myself out of leading <a href="http://www.enliveningedge.org" target="_blank">Enlivening Edge</a>, where we (re-)publish stuff like David's "<a href="http://www.enliveningedge.org/views/can-capitalism-survive-without-commons-can-bind-people-together-beyond-minimal-social-civic-ties/" target="_blank">Can Capitalism Survive Without the Commons? What Can Bind People Together</a>?"<br></div><div><br></div><div>However, if someone on this list has appetite and capacity to launch something, I'd be happy to feed it with pointers and occasional editorials, me too.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">george</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">hi george,<div><br></div><div>yes , that would certainly be useful, but to be honest, I'm not sure that either I or my colleagues have the time and space to add another medium to our work, about from commons transition dot org ...</div><div><br></div><div>if you were to launch something, I'd be happy to feed it with pointers and occasional editorials and such,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:30 PM, George Pór <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:george.por@gmail.com" target="_blank">george.por@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Michel,<div><br></div><div>Fully agree. </div><div>Let's see what responses your Theses on Trump will get. <br><br></div><div>Wouldn't it be useful to have a new publication focused on supporting the work with "younger staffers, working with think thanks, organizing workshops with people in political movements that are open to commons ideas ..."?</div><span class="m_-8719385312038625421gmail-m_7745491026044686949HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>george</div></font></span><div><div class="m_-8719385312038625421gmail-m_7745491026044686949h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">dear George,<div><br></div><div>yes, I agree with you, we have to operate at both these levels, and I'm guessing the grassroots level dialogues are already happening,</div><div><br></div><div>but changing the thinking of people who have been working with one particular paradigm  all their lives is much more difficult, if not almost impossible <g>, so I would suggest working through younger staffers, working with think thanks, organizing workshops with people in political movements that are open to commons ideas ...</div><div><br></div><div>personally, I am also very happy with the progress of the Assemblies of the Commons in France, though most are not focusing on this political work, but they are in dialogue with municipal officials for their projects; and initiatives like the Commons Transition Coalition in Melbourne. The work of the European Commons Assembly which continues and develops after the meeting, is also heartening, and simliar initiatives are under way in germany, finland and the netherlands I heard</div><div><br></div><div>I think a good question to ask is: what do they need that is related and compatible with the commons approach, and is there any way that we can assist them, so that goodwill and dialogue become possible,</div><div><br></div><div>the UK is a bit of an outlier no, more like the USA than Europe ? apart from open and platform coops, I'm not hearing much that is specifically commons oriented  ? Glad to be proven wrong though <g></div><div><br></div><div>Michel<br clear="all"><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">***</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Message: 2</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 13:30:22 +0000</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">From: George Pór <</span><a href="mailto:george@community-intelligence.com" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">george@community-intelligence<wbr>.com</a><span style="font-size:12.8px">></span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">To: P2P Foundation mailing list <</span><a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproje<wbr>ct.org</a><span style="font-size:12.8px">></span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Cc: </span><a href="mailto:commonswatch@lists.p2pfoundation.net" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">commonswatch@lists.p2pfoun<wbr>dation.net</a><span style="font-size:12.8px">, Anna Betz</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">    <</span><a href="mailto:anna@enliveningedge.org" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">anna@enliveningedge.org</a><span style="font-size:12.8px">></span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Subject: Re: [P2P-F] Reflections on Trump,   and the role of the commons</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">    as an alternative</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Message-ID:</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">    <</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">CAHrdgzVwxXGNB3C6owYyDe51TFtN<wbr>L</span><span style="font-size:12.8px">ZTcpOSHc38v+xCoDPn=</span><a href="mailto:UA@mail.gmail.com" style="font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">UA@mail.gm<wbr>ail.com</a><span style="font-size:12.8px">></span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">hi Michel,</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Huge thank you for the clear and a concise articulation of what I've been</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">thinking in the last few weeks!</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">> The p2p/commons approach has a crucial role to play in making the Sanders</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">coalition more realistic, by offering new strategies for</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">re-industrialization which are not based on going back to the old models,</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">but on going forward towards a cosmo-local model of production, which</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">offers solutions not just for the US workers, but for the populations of</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">the world, and through its stress on mutualization and the commons, has</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">solutions for the ecological and climate crisis.</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">The question I hold is, how can we most effectively play that role?</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">Isn't it by opening dialogues, both at the thought leadership and the</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">grassroots levels?</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">*solidarity!*</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">george</span><span class="m_-8719385312038625421gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span class="m_-8719385312038625421gmail-m_7745491026044686949m_210977821210094426gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></font></span></div><span class="m_-8719385312038625421gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span class="m_-8719385312038625421gmail-m_7745491026044686949m_210977821210094426gmail-HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br><div class="m_-8719385312038625421gmail-m_7745491026044686949m_210977821210094426gmail-m_3048673844094693062gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://commonstransition.org" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a>  </div><div><br></div>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; 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