<div dir="ltr">ok, thanks for the effort, and looking forward!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:54 PM, David de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p>Yes! It will take a little, I guess it could be interesting to
      write it with people from the FEC and I will email them in order
      to do it :-D<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="m_-7073276988876391270moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-11-26 05:54, Michel Bauwens
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">and perhaps you could be writing something on this
        David, for publication also on the p2p blog ?</div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:27 AM, David
          de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
              <p>Well Michel, that is precisely the interesting thing
                that is changing: egalitarian communities are not local
                nor agricultural only any more, in fact
                transnationalization and digitalization with some global
                mutual mechanisms is on the move:</p>
              <p>The FEC has a mutual system since before we met them by
                firsttime, but they were rural productive communities
                mainly and the few urban groups they had were income
                sharing but not work sharing and because of it not
                related with productive p2p technologies. But... this
                changed when they started to create new urban
                communities two years  ago: with the city came the
                digitalization and the concerns of expanding the commons
                logic towards new commons.</p>
              <p>And if it wasnt interesting enough, the progressive and
                simultaneous urbanization of Kommunja network in Germany
                gave place this last Summer to a movement towards the
                FEC in order to have more intense relations with the
                horizon of economical cooperation.  <br>
              </p>
              <p>We are talking here of the first steps of a
                transnational network with hundreds of people in USA and
                Germany, with a «sharing everything» economy, creating a
                common mutual system and increasingly arriving to the
                world of p2p production and digital commons. I guess
                this is pointing closer to the phyle as a possible
                reality in the short term than any other example I have
                heard of...<br>
              </p>
              <br>
              <div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698moz-cite-prefix">On
                2016-11-25 12:38, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div dir="ltr">dear David,.
                  <div>I would see a rather big difference between the
                    locally-based intentional communities based on
                    intense and local community-based collectivism, and
                    the peer production phyles that are based on open
                    contributions. They are both legitimate, but they
                    are very different beasts. I wonder if it's a good
                    idea to have them both at the same table from the
                    very beginning.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>PErsonally, I don't think so, because their
                    orientation and goals are so different. They predate
                    the network age, and often have no intention to
                    project systemic power at the global level, which is
                    my aim in this gathering of proto-phyles, i.e. the
                    gathering of transnational ethical entrepreneurial
                    coalitions, based on commons and peer production.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Any encounter between them and localized
                    intentional communities I would see as a eventual
                    later step,</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>furthermore, my availability during the period
                    march 15 to june 15 will be severely constrained by
                    the ambitious project in Ghent,</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Michel</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Michel</div>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:30
                    PM, David de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                        <p>So great!!</p>
                        <p>I would invite to this proto-phyle meeting
                          the egalitarian communities already in motion
                          (the FEC in USA, Kommuja in Germany, Longo Mai
                          in the Alps) and some interesting small
                          communities world wide (Kibutz Samar, Kibutz
                          Lotan, Le Manoir, etc.). There are interesting
                          approaches between all of them and some of
                          them, as The FEC, already have internal mutual
                          systems between their communities.</p>
                        <p>Do some of you want to lead such a meeting?</p>
                        <p>If the answer is yes we will love to help, if
                          it is no, I could ask my fellow indianos and
                          look for a date during... ¿springtime?<br>
                        </p>
                        <p>Big hug!</p>
                        <span class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                            <p>David<br>
                            </p>
                          </font></span>
                        <div>
                          <div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698h5"> <br>
                            <div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880moz-cite-prefix">On
                              2016-11-25 10:51, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
                            </div>
                            <blockquote type="cite">
                              <div dir="ltr">dear David and friends,
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I will be working next spring on a
                                  commons transition project for the
                                  city of Ghent, (under embargo,
                                  official announcement on dec 2 only), </div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>one of my first priorities there,
                                  will be the development of city-based
                                  programs to relocate production and to
                                  create incomes, work and employment
                                  not just for the precarious knowledge
                                  workers but especially for blue-collar
                                  communities,</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>see here an article more or less
                                  expressing the same thought:</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div><a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/answering-attraction-trump-massive-investment-relocalized-community-production/2016/11/25" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/answering-attraction-trump-ma<wbr>ssive-investment-relocalized-<wbr>community-production/2016/11/2<wbr>5</a><br>
                                </div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Eventually, after my relocation in
                                  brussels in the fall, to work 100 days
                                  a year for the fast-growing labour
                                  mutual Smart (now a european
                                  cooperative structure with 75k members
                                  and growing), I also want to create a
                                  Commons Transition based think thank
                                  in the heart of Europe,</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I am still hoping that the groups
                                  and individuals addressed in the
                                  earlier request, would be willing to
                                  organize some inter-phyles congress at
                                  some point, and I'd be very happy to
                                  help with that,</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Michel</div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 15,
                                  2016 at 1:34 AM, David de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                    <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                      <p>And coming back to our
                                        subject... what do you propose
                                        to do?<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <div>
                                        <div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880h5">
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382moz-cite-prefix">On
                                            2016-11-03 15:10, Michel
                                            Bauwens wrote:<br>
                                          </div>
                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                            <div dir="ltr">but actually,
                                              many former members say
                                              exactly that, that the
                                              Impact Hub is extractive.
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>The general complaint
                                                is that the
                                                venture-based ownership
                                                model is generating too
                                                much pressure on what
                                                should be a
                                                collaborative and
                                                participative model ..</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>Personally, I have
                                                witnessed the forced
                                                smiles of many of
                                                hostesses (often the
                                                hubs are led by female
                                                members and employees),
                                                who are under great
                                                pressure to 'perform'
                                                their participative
                                                duties (number of events
                                                organized, number of new
                                                clients recruited, etc
                                                ..); and heard from
                                                outsiders, that an
                                                enormous amount of
                                                skills are required for
                                                relatively low pay,</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>I haven't verified
                                                any of this, but this is
                                                based on testimonies,</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>Michel</div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at
                                                6:35 PM, David de Ugarte
                                                <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
                                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I
                                                  did not mean they were
                                                  extractive, they are
                                                  just a network of
                                                  coworking spaces, what
                                                  I pointed is the
                                                  difference of this
                                                  kind of transnational
                                                  network and phyles:
                                                  having a common
                                                  identity alternative
                                                  to that of nationalism
                                                  and taking care of
                                                  there members in case
                                                  of necessity.
                                                  Impacthub does not
                                                  provide other identity
                                                  different to the one
                                                  that provides you to
                                                  be client of a nice
                                                  transnational landlord
                                                  nor takes care of you
                                                  more than any firm
                                                  takes care of a
                                                  client.
                                                  <div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382HOEnZb">
                                                    <div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382h5"><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      On 2016-10-23
                                                      13:29, Bob Haugen
                                                      wrote:<br>
                                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                        I'm not familiar
                                                        with ImpactHub
                                                        (just looked at
                                                        their website a
                                                        bit,<br>
                                                        though). In what
                                                        way are they
                                                        extractive?<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        On Sun, Oct 23,
                                                        2016 at 2:47 AM,
                                                        Michel Bauwens<br>
                                                        <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>
                                                        wrote:<br>
                                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
                                                          On Tue, Oct
                                                          18, 2016 at
                                                          10:13 PM,
                                                          David de
                                                          Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
                                                          but
                                                          essentiallly
                                                          for me a phyle
                                                          is a
                                                          trans-national
                                                          business
                                                          eco-system<br>
                                                          for a
                                                          community and
                                                          its commons<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I agree, but
                                                          could have
                                                          sense to be
                                                          more specific
                                                          in order to
                                                          separate it<br>
                                                          from pure
                                                          transnational
                                                          ecosystems as
                                                          ImpactHub
                                                          including
                                                          something
                                                          about<br>
                                                          identity or
                                                          responsability
                                                          on the welfare
                                                          of the
                                                          individual
                                                          partners? What<br>
                                                          do you think?<br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Yes, I agree
                                                          that is a part
                                                          of the
                                                          definition, to
                                                          distinguish it
                                                          from the<br>
                                                          extractive
                                                          models, which
                                                          I think the
                                                          ImpactHub
                                                          actually is,
                                                          despite its<br>
                                                          original good
                                                          intentions ..<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          by the way,
                                                          all assistance
                                                          in mapping the
                                                          new global
                                                          nomadic
                                                          networks would<br>
                                                          be very
                                                          welcome:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Nomadic_Infrastructures" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/Category:Nomadic_Infrastructu<wbr>res</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Michel<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          for me las
                                                          indias,
                                                          enspiral,
                                                          sensorica,
                                                          ethos VO go in
                                                          that direction
                                                          ...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Great!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Big hug<br>
                                                          David<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On Tue, Oct
                                                          18, 2016 at
                                                          7:11 PM, David
                                                          de Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          Great Michael!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          So... it could
                                                          be interesting
                                                          to have a
                                                          common, and a
                                                          little bit<br>
                                                          detailed,
                                                          definition of
                                                          phyle
                                                          understanding
                                                          proto-phyle as
                                                          all the
                                                          nucleus<br>
                                                          going in that
                                                          direction.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Would you make
                                                          the honours?
                                                          :-D<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 2016-10-18
                                                          14:03, Michel
                                                          Bauwens wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          personally, I
                                                          am talking
                                                          about some
                                                          coordination
                                                          and
                                                          cooperation
                                                          between<br>
                                                          proto-phyles
                                                          ...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          coordinating
                                                          commons-based
                                                          production is
                                                          a different
                                                          topic, equally<br>
                                                          interesting
                                                          but this was
                                                          not the topic
                                                          of the
                                                          original
                                                          invite,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          of course,
                                                          phyles could
                                                          <also>
                                                          coordinate
                                                          their
                                                          production, if
                                                          they were<br>
                                                          more fully
                                                          developed etc
                                                          ..<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Michel<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On Tue, Oct
                                                          18, 2016 at
                                                          6:58 PM, David
                                                          de Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          Ah! OK, this
                                                          is about
                                                          coordinating
                                                          commons based
                                                          projects, not
                                                          about<br>
                                                          phyle making.
                                                          So, the
                                                          question
                                                          should be then
                                                          how phyle
                                                          nucleus as
                                                          ours, can<br>
                                                          contribute to
                                                          these movement
                                                          towards
                                                          territorial
                                                          coordination
                                                          of commons<br>
                                                          based
                                                          projects, Am I
                                                          right?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          We agree with
                                                          that
                                                          idea/project
                                                          and we will
                                                          give our best
                                                          to it, no<br>
                                                          doubt. But,
                                                          please lets
                                                          use the word
                                                          phyle with its
                                                          meaning. From
                                                          its very<br>
                                                          origins the
                                                          phyle idea had
                                                          a very
                                                          concrete goal:
                                                          to create an
                                                          alternative to<br>
                                                          national
                                                          identity able
                                                          to complement
                                                          the fading
                                                          (¿collapsing?)
                                                          welfare state<br>
                                                          and take
                                                          responsibility
                                                          for its own
                                                          members
                                                          (social
                                                          security,
                                                          health,<br>
                                                          guarantee of
                                                          job and trade
                                                          inside, safety
                                                          and freedom of
                                                          movements,
                                                          etc.)<br>
                                                          what made
                                                          mandatory to
                                                          the few phyle
                                                          nucleus
                                                          existing then,
                                                          to have a<br>
                                                          presence and a
                                                          real autonomy
                                                          in the open
                                                          market while
                                                          constructing a<br>
                                                          money-free
                                                          economy in its
                                                          interior.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 2016-10-18
                                                          12:58, David
                                                          de Ugarte
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Great thanks
                                                          to you both!!!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 2016-10-18
                                                          12:57, Stacco
                                                          Troncoso
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Here's the
                                                          Commons
                                                          Association
                                                          text in our
                                                          blog, if you
                                                          don't like
                                                          PDFs<br>
                                                          ;)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/unifying-commons-based-projects-in-a-self-organised-solidarity-economy/2016/09/09" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/unifying-commons-based-projec<wbr>ts-in-a-self-organised-solidar<wbr>ity-economy/2016/09/09</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On Tue, Oct
                                                          18, 2016 at
                                                          12:53 PM, Bob
                                                          Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          You all might
                                                          find the pdfs
                                                          below to be
                                                          relevant:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          ----------
                                                          Forwarded
                                                          message
                                                          ----------<br>
                                                          From:
                                                          Christian
                                                          Siefkes via
                                                          Commonsverbuende<br>
                                                          <<a href="mailto:commonsverbuende@lists.commons-institut.org" target="_blank">commonsverbuende@lists.common<wbr>s-institut.org</a>><br>
                                                          Date:
                                                          2016-10-18
                                                          5:06 GMT-05:00<br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [commonsverbuende]
                                                          Commons
                                                          Associations
                                                          jetzt auch in<br>
                                                          Englisch<br>
                                                          To: <a href="mailto:commonsverbuende@lists.commons-institut.org" target="_blank">commonsverbuende@lists.commons<wbr>-institut.org</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Hallo Hannes
                                                          und alle,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 08/10/16
                                                          15:41,
                                                          Christian
                                                          Siefkes via
                                                          Commonsverbuende
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          OK, ich werde
                                                          PDFs erzeugen
                                                          und hochladen
                                                          und dann hier
                                                          nochmal<br>
                                                          Bescheid
                                                          sagen.<br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          ich habe die
                                                          PDfs jetzt
                                                          erstellt und
                                                          bei Keimform
                                                          hochgeladen.
                                                          Sie sind<br>
                                                          vom<br>
                                                          deutsch- bzw.
englischsprachigen Artikel aus verlinkt oder direkt unter<br>
                                                          folgenden URLs
                                                          zu finden:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Deutsch:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://keimform.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/commonsverbund.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://keimform.de/wp-content/<wbr>uploads/2016/06/commonsverbund<wbr>.pdf</a><br>
                                                          Englisch:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://keimform.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/commons-association.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://keimform.de/wp-content/<wbr>uploads/2016/08/commons-associ<wbr>ation.pdf</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Herzliche
                                                          Grüße<br>
                                                                 
                                                           Christian<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          |--------- Dr.
                                                          Christian
                                                          Siefkes
                                                          --------- <a href="mailto:christian@siefkes.net" target="_blank">christian@siefkes.net</a><br>
                                                          ---------<br>
                                                          | Homepage:   <a href="http://www.siefkes.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.siefkes.net/</a> 
                                                           |   Blog:<br>
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                                                          | Wie
                                                          Produktion zur
                                                          Nebensache
                                                          wurde:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.keimform.de/2013/freie-quellen-1/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.keimform.de/2013/freie-que<wbr>llen-1/</a><br>
                                                          | Why
                                                          Production No
                                                          Longer Worries
                                                          Us:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.keimform.de/2013/free-sources-1/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.keimform.de/2013/free-sour<wbr>ces-1/</a><br>
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                                                          --<br>
                                                          Was darf die
                                                          Satire?<br>
                                                               Alles.<br>
                                                                   --
                                                          Kurt Tucholsky<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          On Tue, Oct
                                                          18, 2016 at
                                                          5:19 AM, Bob
                                                          Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          Responses
                                                          inline.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On Tue, Oct
                                                          18, 2016 at
                                                          5:06 AM, David
                                                          de Ugarte<br>
                                                          <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          Dear Bob,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          it is a really
                                                          interesting
                                                          theoretical
                                                          approach
                                                          but... I guess
                                                          we<br>
                                                          are still<br>
                                                          far from the
                                                          point when we
                                                          could attend
                                                          basic
                                                          consumption
                                                          demands.<br>
                                                          The real<br>
                                                          existing
                                                          fabric of p2p
                                                          production is
unproportionally based in<br>
                                                          services (as<br>
                                                          it is natural
                                                          because p2p
                                                          production was
                                                          born in the
                                                          digital<br>
                                                          economy).<br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          I am aware
                                                          it's mostly
                                                          services now,
                                                          except for
                                                          food, which
                                                          could be<br>
                                                          a<br>
                                                          place to start
                                                          on material
                                                          goods, at
                                                          least in
                                                          regional
                                                          networks.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Software,
                                                          however, is
                                                          the heart of
                                                          p2p production
                                                          now, and that
                                                          is<br>
                                                          not<br>
                                                          coordinated
                                                          very well
                                                          between groups
                                                          or often not
                                                          even within
                                                          groups.<br>
                                                          The Mutual Aid
                                                          Networks, for
                                                          example, use
                                                          several apps
                                                          that do not<br>
                                                          talk to each
                                                          other. And
                                                          several Mutual
                                                          Aid Networks
                                                          are starting
                                                          up,<br>
                                                          that will
                                                          multiply the
                                                          same problem.
                                                          Same for Fair
                                                          Coop.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Designs for
                                                          material goods
                                                          is another
                                                          possibility.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          Increasing
                                                          diversity of
                                                          production is
                                                          today a trend
                                                          and a goal,
                                                          but<br>
                                                          I guess<br>
                                                          diversity is
                                                          not still big
                                                          enough even
                                                          for supporting
                                                          a viable<br>
                                                          productive<br>
                                                          coin.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Because of it,
                                                          from the very
                                                          beggining we
                                                          envisioned
                                                          mutualism as<br>
                                                          the path<br>
                                                          of making
                                                          phyles grow
                                                          inside a wider
                                                          vision we call
                                                          post-laborism.<br>
                                                          Please<br>
                                                          have a look to
                                                          this post (you
                                                          will probably
                                                          have to use
                                                          google<br>
                                                          translate)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="https://lasindias.com/post-laborismo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lasindias.com/post-lab<wbr>orismo</a><br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          Thanks, will
                                                          study.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          On 2016-10-16
                                                          11:56, Bob
                                                          Haugen wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          Sorry,
                                                          cutnpaste
                                                          error. Should
                                                          have been
                                                          section
                                                          entitled "How
                                                          we<br>
                                                          can<br>
                                                          implement a
                                                          Mutual
                                                          Coordination
                                                          Economy based
                                                          on existing<br>
organizations".<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On Sun, Oct
                                                          16, 2016 at
                                                          3:04 AM, Bob
                                                          Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          then see from
                                                          there if it
                                                          makes sense to
                                                          have some
                                                          extra layer of<br>
                                                          alignment
                                                          between
                                                          'proto-phyles'<br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          Could this be
                                                          it?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/how-the-signals-used-by-capit<wbr>alist-supply-chains-could-serv<wbr>e-a-mutual-coordination-econom<wbr>y/2016/02/10</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          See the
                                                          section
                                                          entitled<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          "<a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.ne<wbr>t/how-the-signals-used-by-capi<wbr>talist-supply-chains-could-ser<wbr>ve-a-mutual-coordination-econo<wbr>my/2016/02/10</a>"<br>
                                                          and my comment
                                                          below:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10#comment-1551200" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/how-the-signals-used-by-capit<wbr>alist-supply-chains-could-serv<wbr>e-a-mutual-coordination-econom<wbr>y/2016/02/10#comment-1551200</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On Sat, Oct
                                                          15, 2016 at
                                                          9:22 PM,
                                                          Michel Bauwens<br>
                                                          <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          dear David,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I have great
                                                          difficulties
                                                          lately to
                                                          monitor my
                                                          emails, 5755
                                                          to go<br>
                                                          <g>,<br>
                                                          and<br>
                                                          so I missed
                                                          this important
                                                          response, and
                                                          the ones
                                                          following
                                                          which<br>
                                                          I will<br>
                                                          process in a
                                                          moment.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The first
                                                          thing for me,
                                                          is perhaps
                                                          that we can
                                                          organize a
                                                          common<br>
                                                          skype<br>
                                                          with<br>
                                                          joshua vial /
                                                          Alanna Krause
                                                          for Enspiral,
                                                          Robert Pye for
                                                          Ethos,<br>
                                                          you and<br>
                                                          Natalia for
                                                          lasindias,
                                                          tibi from
                                                          Sensorica,
                                                          perhaps others
                                                          ? And<br>
                                                          then<br>
                                                          see<br>
                                                          from there if
                                                          it makes sense
                                                          to have some
                                                          extra layer of<br>
                                                          alignment<br>
                                                          between<br>
                                                          'proto-phyles'<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I copy
                                                          Ann-Marie for
                                                          the p2p
                                                          foundation,
                                                          for assistance
                                                          in<br>
                                                          coordinating<br>
                                                          any<br>
                                                          such meetup if
                                                          there is
                                                          agreement on
                                                          doing it.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Since the
                                                          previous email
                                                          in this thread
                                                          is an email
                                                          from our<br>
                                                          recently<br>
                                                          deceased P2P
                                                          colleague Jean
                                                          Lievens, I am
                                                          sharing a
                                                          special<br>
                                                          thought in<br>
                                                          his<br>
                                                          remembrance,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Michel<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On Mon, May
                                                          23, 2016 at
                                                          6:12 PM, David
                                                          de Ugarte<br>
                                                          <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          We completely
                                                          agree!!<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          It is a nodal
                                                          moment because
                                                          this
                                                          convergence, I
                                                          guess,
                                                          reflects<br>
                                                          a<br>
                                                          deepening
                                                          concern in
                                                          wide social
                                                          sectors. In
                                                          our case, we
                                                          are<br>
                                                          experiencing<br>
                                                          since
                                                          October's
                                                          Somero a
                                                          widening of 
                                                          our audience
                                                          and a closer<br>
                                                          relation<br>
                                                          with other
                                                          communities.
                                                          Last week, in
                                                          example, we
                                                          had by first<br>
                                                          time in<br>
                                                          many<br>
                                                          years, more
                                                          than 10.000
                                                          unique
                                                          visitors in
                                                          our blog in
                                                          only a<br>
                                                          day, and<br>
                                                          the<br>
                                                          Communard
                                                          Manifesto is
                                                          spreading a
                                                          lot faster
                                                          than we
                                                          thought:<br>
                                                          there<br>
                                                          are in<br>
                                                          example
                                                          volunteers -we
                                                          did not know
                                                          before-
                                                          translating it
                                                          in<br>
                                                          Switzerland<br>
                                                          and Portugal
                                                          to German and
                                                          Portuguese
                                                          languages.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          So, we are
                                                          sensing not
                                                          only the
                                                          appearance of
                                                          a «P2P
                                                          theoritical<br>
                                                          camp»,<br>
                                                          but the
                                                          emergence of a
                                                          «P2P audience»
                                                          probably
                                                          product of the<br>
                                                          disenchanted<br>
                                                          with the
                                                          political
                                                          hopes
                                                          hegemonic only
                                                          a year ago
                                                          between the<br>
                                                          majority<br>
                                                          of<br>
                                                          the activists
                                                          in countries
                                                          like Spain or
                                                          Greece.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          So, Michel,
                                                          what comes
                                                          now? How could
                                                          we contribute?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 2016-05-21
                                                          22:06, Michel
                                                          Bauwens wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          AN IMPORTANT
                                                          PIVOT MOMENT
                                                          TOWARDS A THE
                                                          EMERGENCE OF A<br>
                                                          COLLECTIVE<br>
                                                          ORGANIC<br>
                                                          INTELLECTUAL
                                                          FOR THE
                                                          COMMONS
                                                          MOVEMENT<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The above has
                                                          always been
                                                          the ambition
                                                          of the P2P
                                                          Foundation,<br>
                                                          and I<br>
                                                          believe this
                                                          is now
                                                          coalescing ..
                                                          some signs<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          1) Las Indias
                                                          has
                                                          consolidated
                                                          all its
                                                          original
                                                          insights in
                                                          the<br>
                                                          just<br>
                                                          published
                                                          Communard
                                                          Manifesto
                                                          (Steve
                                                          Herrick: you
                                                          can perhaps<br>
                                                          let them<br>
                                                          know<br>
                                                          about this
                                                          posting here
                                                          as they are
                                                          not on fb)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          2) the last
                                                          video by
                                                          Dmytri
                                                          Kleiner, which
                                                          I posted here,
                                                          also<br>
                                                          shows a<br>
                                                          convergence
                                                          towards this
                                                          multi-modal
                                                          approach
                                                          (working for
                                                          the<br>
                                                          strengthening<br>
                                                          of the new
                                                          economy within
                                                          the existing
                                                          one) and has a
                                                          very<br>
                                                          precise<br>
                                                          strategy<br>
                                                          and many
                                                          innovative
                                                          concepts<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          3) the
                                                          critique by
                                                          Alanna Krause
                                                          on the
                                                          blockchain
                                                          which I<br>
                                                          posited,<br>
                                                          along<br>
                                                          with the
                                                          'transvestment'
                                                          practices,
                                                          show that both
                                                          the practice,<br>
                                                          and<br>
                                                          the<br>
                                                          theory, and
                                                          the
                                                          subjectivity
                                                          of Enspiral is
                                                          moving in the
                                                          same<br>
                                                          direction<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          4) as for
                                                          myself, I am
                                                          working on a
                                                          more
                                                          theoretical
                                                          book in<br>
                                                          which I'm<br>
                                                          aligning all
                                                          our pasts
                                                          insights
                                                          following the
                                                          overview of
                                                          Kojin<br>
                                                          Karatini ..<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I may be
                                                          forgetting
                                                          some other
                                                          elements, but
                                                          here we are,
                                                          there<br>
                                                          is<br>
                                                          effectively, a
                                                          collective
                                                          organic
                                                          intellectual
                                                          at work, which
                                                          is<br>
                                                          thinking<br>
                                                          through the
                                                          strategies to
                                                          be followed by
                                                          the forces of
                                                          the<br>
                                                          commons, in<br>
                                                          a way<br>
                                                          that may have
                                                          been there in
                                                          seed form, but
                                                          is about to
                                                          flower<br>
                                                          and ..<br>
                                                          THIS IS<br>
                                                          HUGELY
                                                          IMPORTANT<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I am not
                                                          implying here
                                                          of course that
                                                          there are no
                                                          differences<br>
                                                          between<br>
                                                          the<br>
                                                          approaches of
                                                          these groups,
                                                          but that they
                                                          are moving
                                                          broadly in<br>
                                                          the<br>
                                                          same<br>
                                                          direction .<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          At present,
                                                          there are not
                                                          any formal
                                                          bridges
                                                          between these<br>
                                                          groups, but<br>
                                                          there are
                                                          occasional
                                                          informal
                                                          contacts, and
                                                          the memes do
                                                          seem to<br>
                                                          travel<br>
                                                          ..<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          With Dmytri
                                                          Kleiner, we
                                                          are discussing
                                                          a
                                                          'Transvestment'<br>
                                                          conference in<br>
                                                          Berlin at the
                                                          end of this
                                                          year, no
                                                          funding yet,
                                                          this could be
                                                          an<br>
                                                          occasion<br>
                                                          for these
                                                          groups to
                                                          enter into
                                                          more coherent
                                                          dialogue,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Michel<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Check out the
                                                          Commons
                                                          Transition
                                                          Plan here at:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://commonstransition.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          P2P
                                                          Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>  -<br>
                                                          <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Check out the
                                                          Commons
                                                          Transition
                                                          Plan here at:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://commonstransition.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          P2P
                                                          Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>  -<br>
                                                          <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
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                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Strategic
                                                          direction
                                                          steward P2P
                                                          Foundation.
                                                          Director of
                                                          content<br>
                                                          <a href="http://commonstransition.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">commonstransition.org</a><br>
                                                          Co-founder <a href="http://guerrillatranslation.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">guerrillatranslation.org</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Check out the
                                                          Commons
                                                          Transition
                                                          Plan here at:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://commonstransition.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          P2P
                                                          Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>  - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Check out the
                                                          Commons
                                                          Transition
                                                          Plan here at:<br>
                                                          <a href="http://commonstransition.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          P2P
                                                          Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>  - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>;
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                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --<br>
                                                          Check out the
                                                          Commons
                                                          Transition
                                                          Plan here at:
                                                          <a href="http://commonstransition.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          P2P
                                                          Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>  - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>;
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                                                          <br>
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                                                          (En)Rich list:
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                                                        </blockquote>
                                                      </blockquote>
                                                      <br>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                              <br clear="all">
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              -- <br>
                                              <div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
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                                                      <div>Check out the
                                                        Commons
                                                        Transition Plan
                                                        here at: <a href="http://commonstransition.org" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a>  </div>
                                                      <div><br>
                                                      </div>
                                                      P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> 
                                                      - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>;
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                                                      <br>
                                                      #82 on the
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                                                      <br>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </blockquote>
                                          <br>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </blockquote>
                                </div>
                                <br>
                                <br clear="all">
                                <span class="m_-7073276988876391270HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    -- <br>
                                    <div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
                                      <div dir="ltr">
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                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                            <div>Check out the Commons
                                              Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://commonstransition.org" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a>  </div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> 
                                            - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>;
                                            <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwe<wbr>ns</a><br>
                                            <br>
                                            #82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-comp<wbr>lete-list/</a>
                                            <br>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </font></span></div>
                              <span class="m_-7073276988876391270HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                                </font></span></blockquote>
                            <span class="m_-7073276988876391270HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                                <br>
                              </font></span></div>
                          <span class="m_-7073276988876391270HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> </font></span></div>
                        <span class="m_-7073276988876391270HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> </font></span></div>
                      <span class="m_-7073276988876391270HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> </font></span></blockquote>
                    <span class="m_-7073276988876391270HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> </font></span></div>
                  <span class="m_-7073276988876391270HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> <br>
                      <br clear="all"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      -- <br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">
                          <div>
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                              <div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan
                                here at: <a href="http://commonstransition.org" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a>  </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> 
                              - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a>
                              <br>
                              <br>
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            </font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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        <br>
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        -- <br>
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                <div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://commonstransition.org" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a>  </div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> 
                - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a>
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