<div dir="ltr">ok, thanks for the effort, and looking forward!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:54 PM, David de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>Yes! It will take a little, I guess it could be interesting to
write it with people from the FEC and I will email them in order
to do it :-D<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="m_-7073276988876391270moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-11-26 05:54, Michel Bauwens
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">and perhaps you could be writing something on this
David, for publication also on the p2p blog ?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 8:27 AM, David
de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>Well Michel, that is precisely the interesting thing
that is changing: egalitarian communities are not local
nor agricultural only any more, in fact
transnationalization and digitalization with some global
mutual mechanisms is on the move:</p>
<p>The FEC has a mutual system since before we met them by
firsttime, but they were rural productive communities
mainly and the few urban groups they had were income
sharing but not work sharing and because of it not
related with productive p2p technologies. But... this
changed when they started to create new urban
communities two years ago: with the city came the
digitalization and the concerns of expanding the commons
logic towards new commons.</p>
<p>And if it wasnt interesting enough, the progressive and
simultaneous urbanization of Kommunja network in Germany
gave place this last Summer to a movement towards the
FEC in order to have more intense relations with the
horizon of economical cooperation. <br>
</p>
<p>We are talking here of the first steps of a
transnational network with hundreds of people in USA and
Germany, with a «sharing everything» economy, creating a
common mutual system and increasingly arriving to the
world of p2p production and digital commons. I guess
this is pointing closer to the phyle as a possible
reality in the short term than any other example I have
heard of...<br>
</p>
<br>
<div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698moz-cite-prefix">On
2016-11-25 12:38, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">dear David,.
<div>I would see a rather big difference between the
locally-based intentional communities based on
intense and local community-based collectivism, and
the peer production phyles that are based on open
contributions. They are both legitimate, but they
are very different beasts. I wonder if it's a good
idea to have them both at the same table from the
very beginning.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>PErsonally, I don't think so, because their
orientation and goals are so different. They predate
the network age, and often have no intention to
project systemic power at the global level, which is
my aim in this gathering of proto-phyles, i.e. the
gathering of transnational ethical entrepreneurial
coalitions, based on commons and peer production.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Any encounter between them and localized
intentional communities I would see as a eventual
later step,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>furthermore, my availability during the period
march 15 to june 15 will be severely constrained by
the ambitious project in Ghent,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michel</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michel</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:30
PM, David de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>So great!!</p>
<p>I would invite to this proto-phyle meeting
the egalitarian communities already in motion
(the FEC in USA, Kommuja in Germany, Longo Mai
in the Alps) and some interesting small
communities world wide (Kibutz Samar, Kibutz
Lotan, Le Manoir, etc.). There are interesting
approaches between all of them and some of
them, as The FEC, already have internal mutual
systems between their communities.</p>
<p>Do some of you want to lead such a meeting?</p>
<p>If the answer is yes we will love to help, if
it is no, I could ask my fellow indianos and
look for a date during... ¿springtime?<br>
</p>
<p>Big hug!</p>
<span class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p>David<br>
</p>
</font></span>
<div>
<div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698h5"> <br>
<div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880moz-cite-prefix">On
2016-11-25 10:51, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">dear David and friends,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I will be working next spring on a
commons transition project for the
city of Ghent, (under embargo,
official announcement on dec 2 only), </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>one of my first priorities there,
will be the development of city-based
programs to relocate production and to
create incomes, work and employment
not just for the precarious knowledge
workers but especially for blue-collar
communities,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>see here an article more or less
expressing the same thought:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/answering-attraction-trump-massive-investment-relocalized-community-production/2016/11/25" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/answering-attraction-trump-ma<wbr>ssive-investment-relocalized-<wbr>community-production/2016/11/2<wbr>5</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Eventually, after my relocation in
brussels in the fall, to work 100 days
a year for the fast-growing labour
mutual Smart (now a european
cooperative structure with 75k members
and growing), I also want to create a
Commons Transition based think thank
in the heart of Europe,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am still hoping that the groups
and individuals addressed in the
earlier request, would be willing to
organize some inter-phyles congress at
some point, and I'd be very happy to
help with that,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michel</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 15,
2016 at 1:34 AM, David de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>And coming back to our
subject... what do you propose
to do?<br>
</p>
<div>
<div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880h5">
<br>
<div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382moz-cite-prefix">On
2016-11-03 15:10, Michel
Bauwens wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">but actually,
many former members say
exactly that, that the
Impact Hub is extractive.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The general complaint
is that the
venture-based ownership
model is generating too
much pressure on what
should be a
collaborative and
participative model ..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Personally, I have
witnessed the forced
smiles of many of
hostesses (often the
hubs are led by female
members and employees),
who are under great
pressure to 'perform'
their participative
duties (number of events
organized, number of new
clients recruited, etc
..); and heard from
outsiders, that an
enormous amount of
skills are required for
relatively low pay,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I haven't verified
any of this, but this is
based on testimonies,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michel</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at
6:35 PM, David de Ugarte
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I
did not mean they were
extractive, they are
just a network of
coworking spaces, what
I pointed is the
difference of this
kind of transnational
network and phyles:
having a common
identity alternative
to that of nationalism
and taking care of
there members in case
of necessity.
Impacthub does not
provide other identity
different to the one
that provides you to
be client of a nice
transnational landlord
nor takes care of you
more than any firm
takes care of a
client.
<div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382HOEnZb">
<div class="m_-7073276988876391270m_-2592582460983727698m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 2016-10-23
13:29, Bob Haugen
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I'm not familiar
with ImpactHub
(just looked at
their website a
bit,<br>
though). In what
way are they
extractive?<br>
<br>
On Sun, Oct 23,
2016 at 2:47 AM,
Michel Bauwens<br>
<<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
On Tue, Oct
18, 2016 at
10:13 PM,
David de
Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
but
essentiallly
for me a phyle
is a
trans-national
business
eco-system<br>
for a
community and
its commons<br>
<br>
<br>
I agree, but
could have
sense to be
more specific
in order to
separate it<br>
from pure
transnational
ecosystems as
ImpactHub
including
something
about<br>
identity or
responsability
on the welfare
of the
individual
partners? What<br>
do you think?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, I agree
that is a part
of the
definition, to
distinguish it
from the<br>
extractive
models, which
I think the
ImpactHub
actually is,
despite its<br>
original good
intentions ..<br>
<br>
by the way,
all assistance
in mapping the
new global
nomadic
networks would<br>
be very
welcome:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Nomadic_Infrastructures" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/Category:Nomadic_Infrastructu<wbr>res</a><br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
for me las
indias,
enspiral,
sensorica,
ethos VO go in
that direction
...<br>
<br>
<br>
Great!<br>
<br>
Big hug<br>
David<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct
18, 2016 at
7:11 PM, David
de Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Great Michael!<br>
<br>
So... it could
be interesting
to have a
common, and a
little bit<br>
detailed,
definition of
phyle
understanding
proto-phyle as
all the
nucleus<br>
going in that
direction.<br>
<br>
Would you make
the honours?
:-D<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2016-10-18
14:03, Michel
Bauwens wrote:<br>
<br>
personally, I
am talking
about some
coordination
and
cooperation
between<br>
proto-phyles
...<br>
<br>
coordinating
commons-based
production is
a different
topic, equally<br>
interesting
but this was
not the topic
of the
original
invite,<br>
<br>
of course,
phyles could
<also>
coordinate
their
production, if
they were<br>
more fully
developed etc
..<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct
18, 2016 at
6:58 PM, David
de Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Ah! OK, this
is about
coordinating
commons based
projects, not
about<br>
phyle making.
So, the
question
should be then
how phyle
nucleus as
ours, can<br>
contribute to
these movement
towards
territorial
coordination
of commons<br>
based
projects, Am I
right?<br>
<br>
We agree with
that
idea/project
and we will
give our best
to it, no<br>
doubt. But,
please lets
use the word
phyle with its
meaning. From
its very<br>
origins the
phyle idea had
a very
concrete goal:
to create an
alternative to<br>
national
identity able
to complement
the fading
(¿collapsing?)
welfare state<br>
and take
responsibility
for its own
members
(social
security,
health,<br>
guarantee of
job and trade
inside, safety
and freedom of
movements,
etc.)<br>
what made
mandatory to
the few phyle
nucleus
existing then,
to have a<br>
presence and a
real autonomy
in the open
market while
constructing a<br>
money-free
economy in its
interior.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2016-10-18
12:58, David
de Ugarte
wrote:<br>
<br>
Great thanks
to you both!!!<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2016-10-18
12:57, Stacco
Troncoso
wrote:<br>
<br>
Here's the
Commons
Association
text in our
blog, if you
don't like
PDFs<br>
;)<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/unifying-commons-based-projects-in-a-self-organised-solidarity-economy/2016/09/09" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/unifying-commons-based-projec<wbr>ts-in-a-self-organised-solidar<wbr>ity-economy/2016/09/09</a><br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct
18, 2016 at
12:53 PM, Bob
Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You all might
find the pdfs
below to be
relevant:<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date:
2016-10-18
5:06 GMT-05:00<br>
Subject: Re:
[commonsverbuende]
Commons
Associations
jetzt auch in<br>
Englisch<br>
To: <a href="mailto:commonsverbuende@lists.commons-institut.org" target="_blank">commonsverbuende@lists.commons<wbr>-institut.org</a><br>
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<br>
Hallo Hannes
und alle,<br>
<br>
On 08/10/16
15:41,
Christian
Siefkes via
Commonsverbuende
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
OK, ich werde
PDFs erzeugen
und hochladen
und dann hier
nochmal<br>
Bescheid
sagen.<br>
</blockquote>
ich habe die
PDfs jetzt
erstellt und
bei Keimform
hochgeladen.
Sie sind<br>
vom<br>
deutsch- bzw.
englischsprachigen Artikel aus verlinkt oder direkt unter<br>
folgenden URLs
zu finden:<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Oct
18, 2016 at
5:19 AM, Bob
Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Responses
inline.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct
18, 2016 at
5:06 AM, David
de Ugarte<br>
<<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dear Bob,<br>
<br>
it is a really
interesting
theoretical
approach
but... I guess
we<br>
are still<br>
far from the
point when we
could attend
basic
consumption
demands.<br>
The real<br>
existing
fabric of p2p
production is
unproportionally based in<br>
services (as<br>
it is natural
because p2p
production was
born in the
digital<br>
economy).<br>
</blockquote>
I am aware
it's mostly
services now,
except for
food, which
could be<br>
a<br>
place to start
on material
goods, at
least in
regional
networks.<br>
<br>
Software,
however, is
the heart of
p2p production
now, and that
is<br>
not<br>
coordinated
very well
between groups
or often not
even within
groups.<br>
The Mutual Aid
Networks, for
example, use
several apps
that do not<br>
talk to each
other. And
several Mutual
Aid Networks
are starting
up,<br>
that will
multiply the
same problem.
Same for Fair
Coop.<br>
<br>
Designs for
material goods
is another
possibility.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Increasing
diversity of
production is
today a trend
and a goal,
but<br>
I guess<br>
diversity is
not still big
enough even
for supporting
a viable<br>
productive<br>
coin.<br>
<br>
Because of it,
from the very
beggining we
envisioned
mutualism as<br>
the path<br>
of making
phyles grow
inside a wider
vision we call
post-laborism.<br>
Please<br>
have a look to
this post (you
will probably
have to use
google<br>
translate)<br>
<br>
<a href="https://lasindias.com/post-laborismo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lasindias.com/post-lab<wbr>orismo</a><br>
</blockquote>
Thanks, will
study.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 2016-10-16
11:56, Bob
Haugen wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Sorry,
cutnpaste
error. Should
have been
section
entitled "How
we<br>
can<br>
implement a
Mutual
Coordination
Economy based
on existing<br>
organizations".<br>
<br>
On Sun, Oct
16, 2016 at
3:04 AM, Bob
Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
then see from
there if it
makes sense to
have some
extra layer of<br>
alignment
between
'proto-phyles'<br>
</blockquote>
Could this be
it?<br>
<br>
<br>
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entitled<br>
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and my comment
below:<br>
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On Sat, Oct
15, 2016 at
9:22 PM,
Michel Bauwens<br>
<<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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dear David,<br>
<br>
I have great
difficulties
lately to
monitor my
emails, 5755
to go<br>
<g>,<br>
and<br>
so I missed
this important
response, and
the ones
following
which<br>
I will<br>
process in a
moment.<br>
<br>
The first
thing for me,
is perhaps
that we can
organize a
common<br>
skype<br>
with<br>
joshua vial /
Alanna Krause
for Enspiral,
Robert Pye for
Ethos,<br>
you and<br>
Natalia for
lasindias,
tibi from
Sensorica,
perhaps others
? And<br>
then<br>
see<br>
from there if
it makes sense
to have some
extra layer of<br>
alignment<br>
between<br>
'proto-phyles'<br>
<br>
I copy
Ann-Marie for
the p2p
foundation,
for assistance
in<br>
coordinating<br>
any<br>
such meetup if
there is
agreement on
doing it.<br>
<br>
Since the
previous email
in this thread
is an email
from our<br>
recently<br>
deceased P2P
colleague Jean
Lievens, I am
sharing a
special<br>
thought in<br>
his<br>
remembrance,<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
On Mon, May
23, 2016 at
6:12 PM, David
de Ugarte<br>
<<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
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We completely
agree!!<br>
<br>
It is a nodal
moment because
this
convergence, I
guess,
reflects<br>
a<br>
deepening
concern in
wide social
sectors. In
our case, we
are<br>
experiencing<br>
since
October's
Somero a
widening of
our audience
and a closer<br>
relation<br>
with other
communities.
Last week, in
example, we
had by first<br>
time in<br>
many<br>
years, more
than 10.000
unique
visitors in
our blog in
only a<br>
day, and<br>
the<br>
Communard
Manifesto is
spreading a
lot faster
than we
thought:<br>
there<br>
are in<br>
example
volunteers -we
did not know
before-
translating it
in<br>
Switzerland<br>
and Portugal
to German and
Portuguese
languages.<br>
<br>
So, we are
sensing not
only the
appearance of
a «P2P
theoritical<br>
camp»,<br>
but the
emergence of a
«P2P audience»
probably
product of the<br>
disenchanted<br>
with the
political
hopes
hegemonic only
a year ago
between the<br>
majority<br>
of<br>
the activists
in countries
like Spain or
Greece.<br>
<br>
So, Michel,
what comes
now? How could
we contribute?<br>
<br>
On 2016-05-21
22:06, Michel
Bauwens wrote:<br>
<br>
AN IMPORTANT
PIVOT MOMENT
TOWARDS A THE
EMERGENCE OF A<br>
COLLECTIVE<br>
ORGANIC<br>
INTELLECTUAL
FOR THE
COMMONS
MOVEMENT<br>
<br>
The above has
always been
the ambition
of the P2P
Foundation,<br>
and I<br>
believe this
is now
coalescing ..
some signs<br>
<br>
1) Las Indias
has
consolidated
all its
original
insights in
the<br>
just<br>
published
Communard
Manifesto
(Steve
Herrick: you
can perhaps<br>
let them<br>
know<br>
about this
posting here
as they are
not on fb)<br>
<br>
2) the last
video by
Dmytri
Kleiner, which
I posted here,
also<br>
shows a<br>
convergence
towards this
multi-modal
approach
(working for
the<br>
strengthening<br>
of the new
economy within
the existing
one) and has a
very<br>
precise<br>
strategy<br>
and many
innovative
concepts<br>
<br>
3) the
critique by
Alanna Krause
on the
blockchain
which I<br>
posited,<br>
along<br>
with the
'transvestment'
practices,
show that both
the practice,<br>
and<br>
the<br>
theory, and
the
subjectivity
of Enspiral is
moving in the
same<br>
direction<br>
<br>
4) as for
myself, I am
working on a
more
theoretical
book in<br>
which I'm<br>
aligning all
our pasts
insights
following the
overview of
Kojin<br>
Karatini ..<br>
<br>
I may be
forgetting
some other
elements, but
here we are,
there<br>
is<br>
effectively, a
collective
organic
intellectual
at work, which
is<br>
thinking<br>
through the
strategies to
be followed by
the forces of
the<br>
commons, in<br>
a way<br>
that may have
been there in
seed form, but
is about to
flower<br>
and ..<br>
THIS IS<br>
HUGELY
IMPORTANT<br>
<br>
I am not
implying here
of course that
there are no
differences<br>
between<br>
the<br>
approaches of
these groups,
but that they
are moving
broadly in<br>
the<br>
same<br>
direction .<br>
<br>
<br>
At present,
there are not
any formal
bridges
between these<br>
groups, but<br>
there are
occasional
informal
contacts, and
the memes do
seem to<br>
travel<br>
..<br>
<br>
<br>
With Dmytri
Kleiner, we
are discussing
a
'Transvestment'<br>
conference in<br>
Berlin at the
end of this
year, no
funding yet,
this could be
an<br>
occasion<br>
for these
groups to
enter into
more coherent
dialogue,<br>
<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
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