<div dir="ltr">dear David,.<div><br></div><div>I would see a rather big difference between the locally-based intentional communities based on intense and local community-based collectivism, and the peer production phyles that are based on open contributions. They are both legitimate, but they are very different beasts. I wonder if it's a good idea to have them both at the same table from the very beginning.</div><div><br></div><div>PErsonally, I don't think so, because their orientation and goals are so different. They predate the network age, and often have no intention to project systemic power at the global level, which is my aim in this gathering of proto-phyles, i.e. the gathering of transnational ethical entrepreneurial coalitions, based on commons and peer production.</div><div><br></div><div>Any encounter between them and localized intentional communities I would see as a eventual later step,</div><div><br></div><div>furthermore, my availability during the period march 15 to june 15 will be severely constrained by the ambitious project in Ghent,</div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:30 PM, David de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>So great!!</p>
<p>I would invite to this proto-phyle meeting the egalitarian
communities already in motion (the FEC in USA, Kommuja in Germany,
Longo Mai in the Alps) and some interesting small communities
world wide (Kibutz Samar, Kibutz Lotan, Le Manoir, etc.). There
are interesting approaches between all of them and some of them,
as The FEC, already have internal mutual systems between their
communities.</p>
<p>Do some of you want to lead such a meeting?</p>
<p>If the answer is yes we will love to help, if it is no, I could
ask my fellow indianos and look for a date during... ¿springtime?<br>
</p>
<p>Big hug!</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p>David<br>
</p></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br>
<div class="m_3468271721337596880moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-11-25 10:51, Michel Bauwens
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">dear David and friends,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I will be working next spring on a commons transition
project for the city of Ghent, (under embargo, official
announcement on dec 2 only), </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>one of my first priorities there, will be the development
of city-based programs to relocate production and to create
incomes, work and employment not just for the precarious
knowledge workers but especially for blue-collar communities,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>see here an article more or less expressing the same
thought:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/answering-attraction-trump-massive-investment-relocalized-community-production/2016/11/25" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.<wbr>net/answering-attraction-<wbr>trump-massive-investment-<wbr>relocalized-community-<wbr>production/2016/11/25</a><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Eventually, after my relocation in brussels in the fall, to
work 100 days a year for the fast-growing labour mutual Smart
(now a european cooperative structure with 75k members and
growing), I also want to create a Commons Transition based
think thank in the heart of Europe,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am still hoping that the groups and individuals addressed
in the earlier request, would be willing to organize some
inter-phyles congress at some point, and I'd be very happy to
help with that,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michel</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 1:34 AM, David
de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p>And coming back to our subject... what do you propose
to do?<br>
</p>
<div>
<div class="m_3468271721337596880h5"> <br>
<div class="m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382moz-cite-prefix">On
2016-11-03 15:10, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">but actually, many former members say
exactly that, that the Impact Hub is extractive.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The general complaint is that the
venture-based ownership model is generating too
much pressure on what should be a collaborative
and participative model ..</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Personally, I have witnessed the forced
smiles of many of hostesses (often the hubs are
led by female members and employees), who are
under great pressure to 'perform' their
participative duties (number of events
organized, number of new clients recruited, etc
..); and heard from outsiders, that an enormous
amount of skills are required for relatively low
pay,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I haven't verified any of this, but this is
based on testimonies,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Michel</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at
6:35 PM, David de Ugarte <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I did not mean they
were extractive, they are just a network of
coworking spaces, what I pointed is the
difference of this kind of transnational
network and phyles: having a common identity
alternative to that of nationalism and taking
care of there members in case of necessity.
Impacthub does not provide other identity
different to the one that provides you to be
client of a nice transnational landlord nor
takes care of you more than any firm takes
care of a client.
<div class="m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382HOEnZb">
<div class="m_3468271721337596880m_-5644806738302651382h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 2016-10-23 13:29, Bob Haugen wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> I'm not
familiar with ImpactHub (just looked at
their website a bit,<br>
though). In what way are they
extractive?<br>
<br>
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 2:47 AM, Michel
Bauwens<br>
<<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:13 PM,
David de Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
but essentiallly for me a phyle is a
trans-national business eco-system<br>
for a community and its commons<br>
<br>
<br>
I agree, but could have sense to be
more specific in order to separate
it<br>
from pure transnational ecosystems
as ImpactHub including something
about<br>
identity or responsability on the
welfare of the individual partners?
What<br>
do you think?<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, I agree that is a part of the
definition, to distinguish it from the<br>
extractive models, which I think the
ImpactHub actually is, despite its<br>
original good intentions ..<br>
<br>
by the way, all assistance in mapping
the new global nomadic networks would<br>
be very welcome:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Category:Nomadic_Infrastructures" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/Category:Nomadic_Infrastructu<wbr>res</a><br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
for me las indias, enspiral,
sensorica, ethos VO go in that
direction ...<br>
<br>
<br>
Great!<br>
<br>
Big hug<br>
David<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 7:11 PM,
David de Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Great
Michael!<br>
<br>
So... it could be interesting to
have a common, and a little bit<br>
detailed, definition of phyle
understanding proto-phyle as all
the nucleus<br>
going in that direction.<br>
<br>
Would you make the honours? :-D<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2016-10-18 14:03, Michel
Bauwens wrote:<br>
<br>
personally, I am talking about
some coordination and cooperation
between<br>
proto-phyles ...<br>
<br>
coordinating commons-based
production is a different topic,
equally<br>
interesting but this was not the
topic of the original invite,<br>
<br>
of course, phyles could
<also> coordinate their
production, if they were<br>
more fully developed etc ..<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 6:58 PM,
David de Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> Ah! OK,
this is about coordinating
commons based projects, not
about<br>
phyle making. So, the question
should be then how phyle nucleus
as ours, can<br>
contribute to these movement
towards territorial coordination
of commons<br>
based projects, Am I right?<br>
<br>
We agree with that idea/project
and we will give our best to it,
no<br>
doubt. But, please lets use the
word phyle with its meaning.
From its very<br>
origins the phyle idea had a
very concrete goal: to create an
alternative to<br>
national identity able to
complement the fading
(¿collapsing?) welfare state<br>
and take responsibility for its
own members (social security,
health,<br>
guarantee of job and trade
inside, safety and freedom of
movements, etc.)<br>
what made mandatory to the few
phyle nucleus existing then, to
have a<br>
presence and a real autonomy in
the open market while
constructing a<br>
money-free economy in its
interior.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2016-10-18 12:58, David de
Ugarte wrote:<br>
<br>
Great thanks to you both!!!<br>
<br>
<br>
On 2016-10-18 12:57, Stacco
Troncoso wrote:<br>
<br>
Here's the Commons Association
text in our blog, if you don't
like PDFs<br>
;)<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/unifying-commons-based-projects-in-a-self-organised-solidarity-economy/2016/09/09" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/unifying-commons-based-projec<wbr>ts-in-a-self-organised-solidar<wbr>ity-economy/2016/09/09</a><br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:53
PM, Bob Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> You
all might find the pdfs below
to be relevant:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Date: 2016-10-18 5:06
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Subject: Re:
[commonsverbuende] Commons
Associations jetzt auch in<br>
Englisch<br>
To: <a href="mailto:commonsverbuende@lists.commons-institut.org" target="_blank">commonsverbuende@lists.commons<wbr>-institut.org</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Hallo Hannes und alle,<br>
<br>
On 08/10/16 15:41, Christian
Siefkes via Commonsverbuende
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> OK,
ich werde PDFs erzeugen und
hochladen und dann hier
nochmal<br>
Bescheid sagen.<br>
</blockquote>
ich habe die PDfs jetzt
erstellt und bei Keimform
hochgeladen. Sie sind<br>
vom<br>
deutsch- bzw.
englischsprachigen Artikel aus
verlinkt oder direkt unter<br>
folgenden URLs zu finden:<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:19
AM, Bob Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Responses inline.<br>
<br>
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 5:06
AM, David de Ugarte<br>
<<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Dear Bob,<br>
<br>
it is a really interesting
theoretical approach
but... I guess we<br>
are still<br>
far from the point when we
could attend basic
consumption demands.<br>
The real<br>
existing fabric of p2p
production is
unproportionally based in<br>
services (as<br>
it is natural because p2p
production was born in the
digital<br>
economy).<br>
</blockquote>
I am aware it's mostly
services now, except for
food, which could be<br>
a<br>
place to start on material
goods, at least in regional
networks.<br>
<br>
Software, however, is the
heart of p2p production now,
and that is<br>
not<br>
coordinated very well
between groups or often not
even within groups.<br>
The Mutual Aid Networks, for
example, use several apps
that do not<br>
talk to each other. And
several Mutual Aid Networks
are starting up,<br>
that will multiply the same
problem. Same for Fair Coop.<br>
<br>
Designs for material goods
is another possibility.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Increasing diversity of
production is today a
trend and a goal, but<br>
I guess<br>
diversity is not still big
enough even for supporting
a viable<br>
productive<br>
coin.<br>
<br>
Because of it, from the
very beggining we
envisioned mutualism as<br>
the path<br>
of making phyles grow
inside a wider vision we
call post-laborism.<br>
Please<br>
have a look to this post
(you will probably have to
use google<br>
translate)<br>
<br>
<a href="https://lasindias.com/post-laborismo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lasindias.com/post-lab<wbr>orismo</a><br>
</blockquote>
Thanks, will study.<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 2016-10-16 11:56, Bob
Haugen wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Sorry, cutnpaste error.
Should have been section
entitled "How we<br>
can<br>
implement a Mutual
Coordination Economy
based on existing<br>
organizations".<br>
<br>
On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at
3:04 AM, Bob Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
then see from there
if it makes sense to
have some extra
layer of<br>
alignment between
'proto-phyles'<br>
</blockquote>
Could this be it?<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/how-the-signals-used-by-capit<wbr>alist-supply-chains-could-serv<wbr>e-a-mutual-coordination-econom<wbr>y/2016/02/10</a><br>
<br>
See the section
entitled<br>
<br>
<br>
"<a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.ne<wbr>t/how-the-signals-used-by-capi<wbr>talist-supply-chains-could-ser<wbr>ve-a-mutual-coordination-econo<wbr>my/2016/02/10</a>"<br>
and my comment below:<br>
<br>
<br>
<a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10#comment-1551200" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.net<wbr>/how-the-signals-used-by-capit<wbr>alist-supply-chains-could-serv<wbr>e-a-mutual-coordination-econom<wbr>y/2016/02/10#comment-1551200</a><br>
<br>
<br>
On Sat, Oct 15, 2016
at 9:22 PM, Michel
Bauwens<br>
<<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
dear David,<br>
<br>
I have great
difficulties lately
to monitor my
emails, 5755 to go<br>
<g>,<br>
and<br>
so I missed this
important response,
and the ones
following which<br>
I will<br>
process in a moment.<br>
<br>
The first thing for
me, is perhaps that
we can organize a
common<br>
skype<br>
with<br>
joshua vial / Alanna
Krause for Enspiral,
Robert Pye for
Ethos,<br>
you and<br>
Natalia for
lasindias, tibi from
Sensorica, perhaps
others ? And<br>
then<br>
see<br>
from there if it
makes sense to have
some extra layer of<br>
alignment<br>
between<br>
'proto-phyles'<br>
<br>
I copy Ann-Marie for
the p2p foundation,
for assistance in<br>
coordinating<br>
any<br>
such meetup if there
is agreement on
doing it.<br>
<br>
Since the previous
email in this thread
is an email from our<br>
recently<br>
deceased P2P
colleague Jean
Lievens, I am
sharing a special<br>
thought in<br>
his<br>
remembrance,<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
On Mon, May 23, 2016
at 6:12 PM, David de
Ugarte<br>
<<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop" target="_blank">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
We completely
agree!!<br>
<br>
It is a nodal
moment because
this convergence,
I guess, reflects<br>
a<br>
deepening concern
in wide social
sectors. In our
case, we are<br>
experiencing<br>
since October's
Somero a widening
of our audience
and a closer<br>
relation<br>
with other
communities. Last
week, in example,
we had by first<br>
time in<br>
many<br>
years, more than
10.000 unique
visitors in our
blog in only a<br>
day, and<br>
the<br>
Communard
Manifesto is
spreading a lot
faster than we
thought:<br>
there<br>
are in<br>
example volunteers
-we did not know
before-
translating it in<br>
Switzerland<br>
and Portugal to
German and
Portuguese
languages.<br>
<br>
So, we are sensing
not only the
appearance of a
«P2P theoritical<br>
camp»,<br>
but the emergence
of a «P2P
audience» probably
product of the<br>
disenchanted<br>
with the political
hopes hegemonic
only a year ago
between the<br>
majority<br>
of<br>
the activists in
countries like
Spain or Greece.<br>
<br>
So, Michel, what
comes now? How
could we
contribute?<br>
<br>
On 2016-05-21
22:06, Michel
Bauwens wrote:<br>
<br>
AN IMPORTANT PIVOT
MOMENT TOWARDS A
THE EMERGENCE OF A<br>
COLLECTIVE<br>
ORGANIC<br>
INTELLECTUAL FOR
THE COMMONS
MOVEMENT<br>
<br>
The above has
always been the
ambition of the
P2P Foundation,<br>
and I<br>
believe this is
now coalescing ..
some signs<br>
<br>
1) Las Indias has
consolidated all
its original
insights in the<br>
just<br>
published
Communard
Manifesto (Steve
Herrick: you can
perhaps<br>
let them<br>
know<br>
about this posting
here as they are
not on fb)<br>
<br>
2) the last video
by Dmytri Kleiner,
which I posted
here, also<br>
shows a<br>
convergence
towards this
multi-modal
approach (working
for the<br>
strengthening<br>
of the new economy
within the
existing one) and
has a very<br>
precise<br>
strategy<br>
and many
innovative
concepts<br>
<br>
3) the critique by
Alanna Krause on
the blockchain
which I<br>
posited,<br>
along<br>
with the
'transvestment'
practices, show
that both the
practice,<br>
and<br>
the<br>
theory, and the
subjectivity of
Enspiral is moving
in the same<br>
direction<br>
<br>
4) as for myself,
I am working on a
more theoretical
book in<br>
which I'm<br>
aligning all our
pasts insights
following the
overview of Kojin<br>
Karatini ..<br>
<br>
I may be
forgetting some
other elements,
but here we are,
there<br>
is<br>
effectively, a
collective organic
intellectual at
work, which is<br>
thinking<br>
through the
strategies to be
followed by the
forces of the<br>
commons, in<br>
a way<br>
that may have been
there in seed
form, but is about
to flower<br>
and ..<br>
THIS IS<br>
HUGELY IMPORTANT<br>
<br>
I am not implying
here of course
that there are no
differences<br>
between<br>
the<br>
approaches of
these groups, but
that they are
moving broadly in<br>
the<br>
same<br>
direction .<br>
<br>
<br>
At present, there
are not any formal
bridges between
these<br>
groups, but<br>
there are
occasional
informal contacts,
and the memes do
seem to<br>
travel<br>
..<br>
<br>
<br>
With Dmytri
Kleiner, we are
discussing a
'Transvestment'<br>
conference in<br>
Berlin at the end
of this year, no
funding yet, this
could be an<br>
occasion<br>
for these groups
to enter into more
coherent dialogue,<br>
<br>
<br>
Michel<br>
<br>
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