<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span>along with 'structure of world history' and the 'first european revolution', this is perhaps the third book to have a profound influence on my thinking and approach, i.e. Frederic Lordon's Imperium, reviewed here in a not so open access article, <a href="https://newleftreview.org/II/97/alberto-toscano-a-structuralism-of-feeling">https://newleftreview.org/II/97/alberto-toscano-a-structuralism-of-feeling</a> </span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span>why, because the message of Lordon is very simple and powerful: horizontalism does NOT created enduring social structures, because if association is totally free , people leave when their 'affects' change ...</span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span>only by introducing 'verticality', i.e. institutions, do groups who share an affect become more permanent ... this means, radical horizontalism is as illusionary as all-statism or market totalitarianism</span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span>just as challenging, Lordon maintains that globalism is impossible, as it is not possible to unite all the people under one affect, so intermediary institutions, like the nation-state, are very strong ..</span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span>he argues that other types of non-nation-state institutions, are in fact , also 'nations' of a sort, so I would conclude that the preference that we show at the p2p foundation for such institutios is indeed an effort to create a new type of 'nation', less bound by geography (except for the virtual geographies of people who share an 'affect' for shared social objects); Lordon would suggest that such new nations however, are unlike to replace the older nation-state models ...</span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span>this seems a realistic aim to me: to add a new layer of governance and institutions ...</span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span>I hope one day, I can debate this with Lordon,</span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span><br></span></div></div><div class="gmail-" style="color:rgb(29,33,41);font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div class="gmail-_1mf gmail-_1mj" style="direction:ltr"><span>Michel</span></div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://commonstransition.org" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a> </div><div><br></div>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; 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