<div dir="ltr">I agree with both assessments of Brian and Paolo of <a href="https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/PostCapitalism">https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/PostCapitalism</a>; <div><br></div><div>for those interested, we have a manuscript available, co-written with Vasilis Kostakis, with what we believe is a coherent and multi-modal strategy for a transition towards post-capitalism.<div><br></div><div>Let me know if you want access to this google doc draft,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Paolo Gerbaudo <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paolo.gerbaudo@gmail.com" target="_blank">paolo.gerbaudo@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I agree with you Brian. I think Paul Mason's book is dangerously techno-optimistic, in line with a long tradition of thinking that sees in technology the conditions for human emancipation, overlooking the fact, that necessary conditions may not be necessarily sufficient conditions, and that there is no action without consciousness and organisation. I also profoundly disagree with Mason's idea that digital technology is intrinsically bound to de-centralise things. If anything digital technology has been highly centralising. Just look at Facebook, Google, and all the digital giants. De-centralisation in user experience has gone hand in hand with functional integration in massive systems of data-gathering and processing which can only be described as new economic and political centres.<br><br></div><div>Best, <br><br></div><div>Paolo<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 5:54 AM, Brian Holmes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bhcontinentaldrift@gmail.com" target="_blank">bhcontinentaldrift@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>This succinct review gets at the whole question of "networked labor." As Hillary Wainwright notes, the precarious networked laborers will not gain political agency as a mere logical consequence of IT. Instead, agency has to be created as a social process. "<span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">For this political dimension we need a critical history of networked, movement ways of organising." That's the crucial understatement of the whole neolieral period.<br><br>When such a history of how people actually struggle</span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> is placed into tension with well-argued normative concepts about</span><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> why and</span> for what we should struggle, then it becomes possible to build towards an overcoming of capitalism.<br><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Explanatory discourse is easy, especially in the retrospect that academics love. Normative statements - I mean, about what society *ought* to be, or what it ought to become - are risky yet necessary. Critical histories that engage with actual struggles while maintaining the inquiry into future possibilities are both potent and rare. My thanks to all who have worked on such things.<br><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">best, Brian<br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br><br><br><br></span></div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_1604065806068745942h5">On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Orsan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:orsan1234@gmail.com" target="_blank">orsan1234@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_1604065806068745942h5"><div dir="auto"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.redpepper.org.uk/postcapitalism-a-guide-to-our-future-by-paul-mason/" target="_blank">http://www.redpepper.org.uk/po<wbr>stcapitalism-a-guide-to-our-fu<wbr>ture-by-paul-mason/</a><br><div class="m_1604065806068745942m_-7354606796061630371m_9096975635677704906col_7 m_1604065806068745942m_-7354606796061630371m_9096975635677704906headlinesf" style="margin-bottom:3em"><h2 style="line-height:1.2em;font-weight:300;text-align:center"><div style="text-align:start"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size:21px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><a href="http://www.redpepper.org.uk/by/hilary-wainwright" style="text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Hilary Wainwright</a> reviews Paul Mason's latest book and questions how far information technology is leading us towards a post-capitalist economy</span></font></div><span class="m_1604065806068745942m_-7354606796061630371m_9096975635677704906date" style="font-size:21px;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><div style="text-align:start">October 2015</div></span></h2></div><div class="m_1604065806068745942m_-7354606796061630371m_9096975635677704906clearboth" style="clear:both"></div><div><p style="padding-left:100px;padding-right:100px;line-height:1.6em"></p><span style="max-width:100%;float:right;padding-left:2em;padding-bottom:2em;padding-right:100px"><img src="http://www.redpepper.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/post-capitalism-mason-262x400.jpg" alt="post-capitalism-mason" class="m_1604065806068745942m_-7354606796061630371m_9096975635677704906alignright m_1604065806068745942m_-7354606796061630371m_9096975635677704906size-medium m_1604065806068745942m_-7354606796061630371m_9096975635677704906wp-image-17201" style="max-width:100%;float:right;padding-left:2em;padding-bottom:2em;padding-right:100px"></span><p style="padding-left:100px;padding-right:100px;line-height:1.6em"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">This is an important book whose ambitious scope stimulates thoughts on the big issues: through what means of adaption is capitalism surviving? What are their limits? Are signs of these limits appearing? Paul Mason connects his answers with proposals for new strategic thinking on the left. He suggests tendencies that produce a dynamic beyond capitalism. He attempts to sketch out how we might build on these tendencies to achieve an alternative to capitalism. It is a captivating but not wholly convincing read. <br><br>Mason combines outrageously bold assertions with detailed empirical analyses of actually existing capitalism that undermine his own broad-brush assertions on how it could be. My central doubt concerns the agency or causal power he ascribes to information technology (IT). In his introductory chapter he asserts: ‘Information is different from every previous technology. As I will show, its spontaneous tendency is to dissolve markets, destroy ownership and break down the relationship between work and wages.’ <br><br>In his conclusion, he compares the impact of IT with that of contraception. We are ‘witnessing a 40,000-year-old system of male power begin to dissolve before our eyes as a result of change triggered by a different kind of technology: the contraceptive pill’. Indeed, it is his excited optimism about the trends associated with new IT towards sharing, the creation of non-monetary value and new forms of production that drives the book. His anticipation of his conclusion – ‘Information technology is leading us towards a post-capitalist economy’ – sums it up. <br><br>Mason is right to stress the insufficiently understood importance of these developments, which he situates in a wider political economy. Yet when he goes on to analyse the forces at work in the capitalist world as it is, he describes forms of power that will not easily ‘dissolve’. He outlines, for example, ‘the creation of monopolies on information and the vigorous defence of intellectual property’. Drawing on his brilliant TV coverage of Greece, he identifies the determination and power of political elites to ensure that any transitional tendencies are definitively blocked. The power of IT and the collaboration it facilitates has been necessary to recent movements of rebellion but is not proving sufficient to bring down authoritarian regimes and transform society. <br><br>While Mason is unconvincing in demonstrating a transition to a post-capitalist order, what does emerge from his book is that we are now on a contested terrain over what the changes he describes are moving towards. It is full of ambivalences and risks as well as opportunities for transformative politics. It is a terrain of strategic struggle that the left ignores at its peril and for which left organisations need to radically change. <br><br>On the one hand are the distributed, peer-to-peer forms of production made possible by new information and communication technologies and especially commons-based peer-to-peer production in which value is created by ‘produsers’ in shared innovation commons. On the other hand, as we’ve seen with Microsoft, Facebook and Google, is capital’s economic power and will to monetise and appropriate the value created through this expanded connectivity. <br><br>The notion of a contested terrain raises the question of agency. Mason addresses this, first negatively to insist that it is not the working class as we have known it, and then sociologically – describing the lifestyles of the young generation of precarious, highly connected, highly educated graduates. But he does not discuss their sources of power and possible strategies and organisational form in depth, beyond celebrating the idea of the network. For this political dimension we need a critical history of networked, movement ways of organising. <br><br>Non-hierarchical, collaborative ways of organising pre-date information technology, though their recent growth has undoubtedly been facilitated by the newly available techno-political tools. In particular, the women’s liberation movement and other rebellions of the 1960s and 70s placed much emphasis on gathering and exchanging information and breaking open the secrecy of the dominant order. Their political concern was to identify the fundamental causes of why things were as the information revealed – and then to change them. This involved the collaborative production and dissemination of explanatory knowledge. <br><br>The production of knowledge is a significant step beyond the exchange of information and requires more complex forms of organistion – for sustained debate, experiment, investigation and decision-making – than simply connectivity. Mason’s omission of the historical dimension of today’s networked culture leads him to confuse and conflate information with knowledge, and to use the two concepts interchangably. This means that he tends towards an almost technological conception of organisation. But once the production of knowledge becomes an issue, explaining what the information tells us and guiding our strategies for change, all kinds of difficult issues arise of building political organisations adequate to the kinds of power we face. These problems are not dissolved by IT any more than is capitalism – or, for that matter, is male power dissolved by the contraceptive pill. <br><br>Paul Mason has certainly written a guide to our future but it is a guide with which we will want to critically discuss at every turn – exactly the preparation needed for the contested terrain in which we find ourselves.</span></p></div><br></div><div><br><br>Sent from my iPad</div></div><br></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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