<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>Yes count me in too. Keen to explore this further. </div><div><br>On 17 Oct. 2016, at 9:36 pm, Irma Wilson <<a href="mailto:il4@mweb.co.za">il4@mweb.co.za</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Thank you Ann Marie and Michel<div>I'd be interested in joining conversation</div><div><br></div><div>In solidarity</div><div>Irma</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 17 Oct 2016, at 9:59 AM, Ann Marie wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hello, everyone,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I'll keep an eye on this thread for responses in the coming days, and if, as Michel says, there's an agreement among a number of you to explore this, I'll put together a "Doodle" to start pinpointing a time for a discussion. <br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Have a good day,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Ann Marie<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Bob Haugen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Sorry, cutnpaste error. Should have been section entitled "How we can<br>
implement a Mutual Coordination Economy based on existing<br>
organizations".<br>
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On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 3:04 AM, Bob Haugen <<a href="mailto:bob.haugen@gmail.com">bob.haugen@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> then see from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of alignment between 'proto-phyles'<br>
><br>
> Could this be it?<br>
> <a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.<wbr>net/how-the-signals-used-by-<wbr>capitalist-supply-chains-<wbr>could-serve-a-mutual-<wbr>coordination-economy/2016/02/<wbr>10</a><br>
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> See the section entitled<br>
> "<a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.<wbr>net/how-the-signals-used-by-<wbr>capitalist-supply-chains-<wbr>could-serve-a-mutual-<wbr>coordination-economy/2016/02/<wbr>10</a>"<br>
> and my comment below:<br>
> <a href="https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/how-the-signals-used-by-capitalist-supply-chains-could-serve-a-mutual-coordination-economy/2016/02/10#comment-1551200" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://blog.p2pfoundation.<wbr>net/how-the-signals-used-by-<wbr>capitalist-supply-chains-<wbr>could-serve-a-mutual-<wbr>coordination-economy/2016/02/<wbr>10#comment-1551200</a><br>
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> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Michel Bauwens<br>
> <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> dear David,<br>
>><br>
>> I have great difficulties lately to monitor my emails, 5755 to go <g>, and<br>
>> so I missed this important response, and the ones following which I will<br>
>> process in a moment.<br>
>><br>
>> The first thing for me, is perhaps that we can organize a common skype with<br>
>> joshua vial / Alanna Krause for Enspiral, Robert Pye for Ethos, you and<br>
>> Natalia for lasindias, tibi from Sensorica, perhaps others ? And then see<br>
>> from there if it makes sense to have some extra layer of alignment between<br>
>> 'proto-phyles'<br>
>><br>
>> I copy Ann-Marie for the p2p foundation, for assistance in coordinating any<br>
>> such meetup if there is agreement on doing it.<br>
>><br>
>> Since the previous email in this thread is an email from our recently<br>
>> deceased P2P colleague Jean Lievens, I am sharing a special thought in his<br>
>> remembrance,<br>
>><br>
>> Michel<br>
>><br>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 6:12 PM, David de Ugarte <<a href="mailto:david@lasindias.coop">david@lasindias.coop</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> We completely agree!!<br>
>>><br>
>>> It is a nodal moment because this convergence, I guess, reflects a<br>
>>> deepening concern in wide social sectors. In our case, we are experiencing<br>
>>> since October's Somero a widening of our audience and a closer relation<br>
>>> with other communities. Last week, in example, we had by first time in many<br>
>>> years, more than 10.000 unique visitors in our blog in only a day, and the<br>
>>> Communard Manifesto is spreading a lot faster than we thought: there are in<br>
>>> example volunteers -we did not know before- translating it in Switzerland<br>
>>> and Portugal to German and Portuguese languages.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So, we are sensing not only the appearance of a «P2P theoritical camp»,<br>
>>> but the emergence of a «P2P audience» probably product of the disenchanted<br>
>>> with the political hopes hegemonic only a year ago between the majority of<br>
>>> the activists in countries like Spain or Greece.<br>
>>><br>
>>> So, Michel, what comes now? How could we contribute?<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 2016-05-21 22:06, Michel Bauwens wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> AN IMPORTANT PIVOT MOMENT TOWARDS A THE EMERGENCE OF A COLLECTIVE ORGANIC<br>
>>> INTELLECTUAL FOR THE COMMONS MOVEMENT<br>
>>><br>
>>> The above has always been the ambition of the P2P Foundation, and I<br>
>>> believe this is now coalescing .. some signs<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1) Las Indias has consolidated all its original insights in the just<br>
>>> published Communard Manifesto (Steve Herrick: you can perhaps let them know<br>
>>> about this posting here as they are not on fb)<br>
>>><br>
>>> 2) the last video by Dmytri Kleiner, which I posted here, also shows a<br>
>>> convergence towards this multi-modal approach (working for the strengthening<br>
>>> of the new economy within the existing one) and has a very precise strategy<br>
>>> and many innovative concepts<br>
>>><br>
>>> 3) the critique by Alanna Krause on the blockchain which I posited, along<br>
>>> with the 'transvestment' practices, show that both the practice, and the<br>
>>> theory, and the subjectivity of Enspiral is moving in the same direction<br>
>>><br>
>>> 4) as for myself, I am working on a more theoretical book in which I'm<br>
>>> aligning all our pasts insights following the overview of Kojin Karatini ..<br>
>>><br>
>>> I may be forgetting some other elements, but here we are, there is<br>
>>> effectively, a collective organic intellectual at work, which is thinking<br>
>>> through the strategies to be followed by the forces of the commons, in a way<br>
>>> that may have been there in seed form, but is about to flower and .. THIS IS<br>
>>> HUGELY IMPORTANT<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am not implying here of course that there are no differences between the<br>
>>> approaches of these groups, but that they are moving broadly in the same<br>
>>> direction .<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> At present, there are not any formal bridges between these groups, but<br>
>>> there are occasional informal contacts, and the memes do seem to travel ..<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> With Dmytri Kleiner, we are discussing a 'Transvestment' conference in<br>
>>> Berlin at the end of this year, no funding yet, this could be an occasion<br>
>>> for these groups to enter into more coherent dialogue,<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Michel<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at:<br>
>>> <a href="http://commonstransition.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/<wbr>mbauwens</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-<wbr>complete-list/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://commonstransition.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a><br>
>><br>
>> P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a><br>
>><br>
>> Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/<wbr>mbauwens</a><br>
>><br>
>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-<wbr>complete-list/</a><br>
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