<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Orsan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:orsan1234@gmail.com" target="_blank">orsan1234@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">With this I don't even mean revolutionary radicalism, and with revolution I mean only really emancipatory imagination. Not armed terror, or anything like that; but perspective of taking land, money, labour, and data out of market and state becomes marginal. In commons discourse you have been promoting had been including such post-capitalist vision, at least as an outcome of a phase transition, you have been saying openly that it is too early for radical break through. This can be argued. I am sure these aspects, new economics foundation and Pat has been critical about. </blockquote></div><br>these are very spefically the aspects that Pat has been working for.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">But to do all these things, you need power, both prefigurative power for small scale changes, and hegemonic political power, for systemic change.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">From the 1980's until 2008, social forces have had to work in a counter-revolutionary context, and it is only now, that the balance of forces may change, but note that this comes with new dangers i.e. with dangers from the radical right.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Michel<br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://commonstransition.org" target="_blank">http://commonstransition.org</a> </div><div><br></div>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br><br>#82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/</a> <br></div></div></div></div>
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