<div dir="ltr">for studies on how this can be funded, see the material at <a href="http://bien.org">bien.org</a>,<div><br></div><div>one can be against the basic income, but the argument that it can't be funded is unfounded,</div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:41 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mestrum@skynet.be" target="_blank">mestrum@skynet.be</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr" style="font-family:'Calibri','Segoe UI','Meiryo','Microsoft YaHei UI','Microsoft JhengHei UI','Malgun Gothic','sans-serif';font-size:12pt"><div>Ana,</div><div>the main problem is that too many people are confusing ‘basic income grant' with a minimum guaranteed income. I fully endorse the latter, a minimum income guaranteed to people out( of work, so they cannhave a life in dignity. The ‘BIG’ goes to all people, whether rich or poor. It is quasi impossible to fund, it is a gigantic gift to employers and maintains inequalities. It does not exist anywhere.</div><div>Is it not a better idea to democratize social protection mechanisms, make them fully participative and broaden social, economic and environmental rights (apart from other advantages). If we want to strengthen solidarity in society, this is the way to go.</div><div><br></div><div>Francine</div><div><a href="http://www.socialcommons.eu" target="_blank">www.socialcommons.eu</a><br></div><div><div><br></div><div>Verzonden met Surface</div><div><br></div></div><div style="padding-top:5px;border-top-color:rgb(229,229,229);border-top-width:1px;border-top-style:solid"><div><font face=" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'" style="line-height:15pt;letter-spacing:0.02em;font-family:"Calibri","Segoe UI","Meiryo","Microsoft YaHei UI","Microsoft JhengHei UI","Malgun Gothic","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><b>Van:</b> <a href="mailto:anna@shsh.co.uk" target="_blank">Anna Harris</a><br><b>Verzonden:</b> maandag 2 november 2015 10:19<br><b>Aan:</b> <a href="mailto:networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org" target="_blank"><networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org></a>, <a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org" target="_blank">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org</a></font></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div>This book offers the framework of building a campaign strategy around the demand for full automation and a basic income for all. This is not a short term demand but a vision of what can be achieved if labour groups come together with academics and supporters to design the future. </div><div><br></div><div>Personally I believe they have drawn the supporting network too narrowly. But that only makes the case for this campaign even more strongly. I wrote some time ago:</div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">BIG (basic income guaranteed) may be revolutionary, but it does not need the economic system to change drastically in order to be introduced. In that sense it is reformist, although the effects are revolutionary. <br>The big advantages are that <br>1. it can be introduced without massive changes to the economic system. <br>2. It is a very simple idea which can be appreciated by people without much knowledge of the economy.<br>3. It has been tried in pilot experiments, and found to be successful in stimulating economic activity. (Brazil)<br>4. Many economists agree (James Robertson, Jeremy Rifkin, Edward Snowden, Richard Swift) that with technology replacing many jobs that previously required human labour, BIG of some sort is necessary.<br>5. Naomi Klein highlights it in her latest book This Changes Everything, as one of the game changing battles that 'don't merely aim to change laws, but changes patterns of thought.'(p 641)</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">The authors are coming to Leeds for an open discussion on Nov 14.</span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></div><div><a href="https://www.facebook.com/events/1624336424483090/" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/events/1624336424483090/</a></div><div><br></div><div>I believe that this campaign could appeal widely across all political spectrums, and would welcome more discussion on this list.</div><div><br></div><div>Anna</div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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