<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Dear Eric,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thank you very much for your email, your feedback and the food for thought (I have also forwarded it to our internal mailing list with the aim to trigger interesting discussions).<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">With regard to your question about our plans for local experimental implementation in Greece, our point of departure will be the documentation/investigation of projects of other organizations and programs (so that we come up with patterns of success or failure and try to communicate them to the wider public etc). In the meantime, we will keep looking for ways to fund local experimental implementation of the dg,ml model in Greece.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">In case we have any serious progress on that front, we will notify P2PF's community, and, needless to say, we will be more than happy if you could provide us with your ideas and feedback.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">All the best,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Vasilis<br> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 October 2015 at 18:33, Eric Hunting <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:erichunting@gmail.com" target="_blank">erichunting@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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This is a very nicely designed site and the lab looks very elegant
and professional. The photos are excellent. But it may be worth
considering noting the location of the lab more prominently. People
in this forum might easily deduce this project being in Greece,
having heard much about the activity and folks involved previously,
but the random visitor will only be able to find the location noted
on the 'contacts' page. It might help to note location on a few more
pages, particularly on the 'about' and 'facilities' pages. <br>
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I'm very interested in the 'design global, manufacture local' aspect
of the planned research and am wondering if there are project plans
for local experimental implementation in Greece or if the plan is,
for now, just to document projects of other organizations and
programs. My own Open House project (
<a href="http://www.appropedia.org/Open_House:_Building_an_Open_Source_Lifestyle" target="_blank">http://www.appropedia.org/Open_House:_Building_an_Open_Source_Lifestyle</a>
) is looking to do something similar or related by cataloging, and
eventually showcasing with a video documentary, the open source
designs necessary for a functional owner/local-built lifestyle.
There's a certain focus on personal 'unplugging' in this (ie. the
use of new production on the household/personal level to unplug from
market dependency) but I also intend to illustrate the potential in
the community context as well. It's one of a number of concepts I've
been exploring recently to apply the approach of 'living museums'
(like the many viking or bronze age village re-creations in Europe
or the colonial era villages in the US) to the exhibition of future
culture and lifestyle rather than their usual focus on the distant
past. <br>
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I think that one of the key things that could facilitate a grounding
of theory into practice is to look at the logistics of lifestyle;
how our daily routine actually works as a system to meet our needs
at a given standard-of-living. Those living museums go to great
lengths to illustrate for the public how past, pre-industrial,
lifestyle functioned, but, ironically, we generally have a very dim
awareness of how our lifestyles actually work in the present, let
alone the near future. This is because the market system conceals
its workings from us--now putting much of them in other distant
countries--leaving us industrially illiterate and unable to imagine
viable alternatives. And so we interface to the market as though it
were an enormous vending machine, its inner workings mysterious and
locked away, our means of interaction strictly limited to just a
coin slot and some buttons as designed by--and suiting the interests
of--whoever built this thing. As I often say, as far as the average
American is concerned, the supermarket gets restocked each night by
Santa Claus and his Chinese elves. And this results in a lot of
difficulty when we try to implement alternative infrastructures or
attempt to create intentional communities. People are always
underestimating just how much goes into maintaining their standard
of living since they've never seen anything but the front end of
that great vending machine and rely largely on fractured and
romanticized myths about life in the past to imagine some 'simpler'
life without it. People are always thinking living off the land is
as easy as a cob cottage with a victory garden until that day
they're drawing straws to see who gets to give the axe to one of the
chickens they named. Maybe we should be reverse-engineering our
lifestyles as a start to hacking that machine, revealing its inner
workings, and re-engineering it to suit our interests. <br>
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Subject: P2P Lab: Papers, Call & Plans for 2016<br>
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Dear colleagues and friends,<br>
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In this email you may find links to the published work of
the P2P Lab collaborators & fellows for 2015. You
may also find of interest our call for visiting scholars
as well as our plans for 2016.<br>
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Best,<br>
Vasilis Kostakis<br>
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