<div dir="ltr">will see when I have time to read!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:36 PM, peter waterman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peterwaterman1936@gmail.com" target="_blank">peterwaterman1936@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Excellent basis for further discussion!<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I thought it was going to go overboard with the Venezuelan case before it made its critique of it. And one has to note that his 'best' cases are those in which the state-nation level has not been reached. In other words, the Zapatista and Rojava models are those of small isolated communities, not yet confronted with the Venezuela Problem.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Further, I agree with his critique of the 'partner-state' model, my previous criticism of this resting at the level of the concept alone - which stuck in my gullet. <br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'll be interested to see Michel's response.<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Orsan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:orsan1234@gmail.com" target="_blank">orsan1234@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div>
                
        
        
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