<div dir="ltr"><div>Yes. I suggest looking into the dynamics after the fall of the wall,<br></div>and how western germany, and its corporations, pushed viable eastern german companies to bankruptcy, and bought over what they could for a fraction of their worth.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 6:13 AM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Michel Bauwens</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span><br>Date: Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 11:12 AM<br>Subject: Re: [tapas] Varoufakis @ Guardian<br>To: "<a href="mailto:tapas@lists.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">tapas@lists.p2pfoundation.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:tapas@lists.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">tapas@lists.p2pfoundation.net</a>><br><br><br><div dir="ltr">2 things are revealing in this testament,<div><br></div><div>one, the realistic assessment that it was never about repayment, but about disciplining</div><div><br></div><div>but second , and this is worse, Varoufakis mentions iraq, of all places, as an example of a return to monetary sovereignty .. and not argentina, iceland or the dozen positive historical examples mentioned by ellen brown in her book, nor the current statistics showing european countries outside the eurozone do generally better than those within it ..</div><div><br></div><div>for me what this reveals is a left version of TINA, and explains why Tsipras wants to give in so badly to the Troika blackmail, they do not see a alternative themselves and that is a terrible realisation ...</div><div><br></div><div>The proposed accord is an absolutely terrible program for permanent enfeeblement of Greece, and as George P. suggested, for the planned destruction of the SME economy ..</div><div><br></div><div>It brings home the possibility described in Kees van der Pijl's new book: The end of political compromise under capitalism ..</div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 4:01 AM, John <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:restakis@gmail.com" target="_blank">restakis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">indeed...<br>
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