<div dir="ltr">all material to support Greece through the p2p blog are very welcome,<div><br></div><div>TODAY 1 <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/in-support-of-the-no-in-the-greek-referendum/2015/06/29">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/in-support-of-the-no-in-the-greek-referendum/2015/06/29</a></div><div><br></div><div><p class="" style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-size:10.8000001907349px;font-family:Lato,sans-serif!important"><a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/in-support-of-the-no-in-the-greek-referendum/2015/06/29" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to In support of the “No” in the Greek Referendum" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none;font-size:1.7em">In support of the “No” in the Greek Referendum</a></p><img src="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/wp-content/uploads/avatars/Michel%20Bauwens.jpg" alt="photo of Michel Bauwens" align="left" style="color: rgb(42, 42, 42); font-family: Ubuntu, 'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 10.8000001907349px;"><div id="postauthorname" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-weight:bold;padding:1px;font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10.8000001907349px">Michel Bauwens</div><div id="postdate" style="color:rgb(153,153,153);padding:2px;font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10.8000001907349px">29th June 2015</div><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10.8000001907349px"></p><br style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10.8000001907349px"><div class="" style="overflow:hidden"><blockquote style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;border:1px dashed rgb(176,176,176);padding:10px;margin:30px"><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;padding:0px">Sunday’s referendum will mark a defining moment in Greece’s modern history and a decisive turn for Europe’s neoliberal project. The choice is very clear. Five years after the people of Greece first rose up against the anti-democratic imposition of the Troika’s austerity measures, they have finally been given the chance to decide upon their own destiny: either they will vote yes to a lifetime of austerity within the eurozone, or they will roar back at the creditors’ inhumane demands with a proud and resounding “NO!” — thereby opening the way for a thousand yeses to a new, democratic and socially just Europe, freed from the shackles of debt servitude, the noose of a deflationary single currency, and the tyranny of an unaccountable financial technocracy.</p></blockquote><p style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px">Republished from <strong>Jerome Roos</strong> (via ZNet).</p><p style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><em>Needless to say with are fully onboard with this interpretation and the need to support the greek people against the extortionate and destructive demands of the Troika.</em></p><p style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><strong>Jerome Roos:</strong></p><p style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><strong><br></strong></p><p style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><strong><br></strong></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><strong style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;line-height:1.5em">TODAY 2 </strong><font color="#2a2a2a" face="Ubuntu, Lucida Grande, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:15.5999994277954px;line-height:23.3999996185303px"><b><a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/what-the-eu-has-wrought-in-greece-the-tale-of-magda/2015/06/29">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/what-the-eu-has-wrought-in-greece-the-tale-of-magda/2015/06/29</a></b></span></font></p><p style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><strong><br></strong></p><p class="" style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Lato,sans-serif!important;font-size:10.8000001907349px;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/what-the-eu-has-wrought-in-greece-the-tale-of-magda/2015/06/29" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent Link to What the EU has wrought in Greece: the tale of Magda" style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-weight:bold;text-decoration:none;font-size:1.7em">What the EU has wrought in Greece: the tale of Magda</a></p><p style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><img src="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/wp-content/uploads/avatars/Michel%20Bauwens.jpg" alt="photo of Michel Bauwens" align="left" style="font-size: 10.8000001907349px; line-height: normal;"></p><div id="postauthorname" style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10.8000001907349px;font-weight:bold;padding:1px">Michel Bauwens</div><div id="postdate" style="color:rgb(153,153,153);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10.8000001907349px;padding:2px">29th June 2015</div><p style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:10.8000001907349px;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"></p><p style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><br style="font-size:10.8000001907349px;line-height:normal"></p><div class="" style="color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.2em;overflow:hidden"><blockquote style="border:1px dashed rgb(176,176,176);padding:10px;margin:30px"><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px;padding:0px">What I do know, is that the encounter was the beginning of the end of my love affair with the European project. Because, quite simply, it is no longer my European Union. It is Amazon’s and Starbucks’. It is the politicians’ and the IMF’s. But it is not mine. If belonging to the largest and richest trading bloc in the world cannot provide dinner for a retired teacher like her, it has no reason to exist. If a European Union which produces €28,000 of annual GDP for every single one of its citizens cannot provide a safety net for her, then it is profoundly wicked. If this is not a union of partners, but a gang of big players and small players, who cut the weakest loose at the first sign of trouble, then it is nothing.</p></blockquote><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px"><a href="https://keithpp.wordpress.com/2015/06/28/magdas-tale/" style="color:rgb(184,91,90);text-decoration:none">Excerpted</a> from <strong>Alex Andreou</strong>:</p></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 3:13 PM, "María G. Perulero" <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maria@goteo.org" target="_blank">maria@goteo.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Keep strong, George! This is so important for everyone, specially for<br>
us, Spain! Go ahead!!<br>
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On 27/06/15 18:15, Michael Lewis wrote:<br>
> Love your spirit George as well as the updates. All the very best in the days ahead. Watching with keen interest. Mike<br>
> On Jun 26, 2015, at 9:17 AM, John <<a href="mailto:restakis@gmail.com">restakis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Very helpful George, thanks.<br>
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>> On 15-06-27 4:20 AM, George Papanikolaou wrote:<br>
>>> Dear all,<br>
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>>> I suspect that some of the foreign media might organize a bank run in the forthcoming days in Greece. The following facts will help you to resist the propaganda of your local media:<br>
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>>> 1. Civil servants are paid every 13 and 26 of the month. Salaries are low, for instance myself and my colleagues (professors at the university are getting between 1200-1600 euros) and are considered well paid civil servants. This is 2 divided doses of around 600-800 per month. We were paid yesterday, normally, despite the propaganda that the Greek state would be unable to pay us at the end of the month.<br>
>>> 2. Pensioners will be paid on Monday - Tuesday. The average pension is around 800 with a median of 450. Pensioners are always queening in the banks during these days because they are not familiar with electronic transactions and get cash which they spend during the month for essential goods. Therefore if you see reproduction of pictures on Monday with people queening this is the explanation and it is normal and expected. There might be more than normal for obvious reasons but not what they are going to present. These pictures have been used repeatedly by the yellow German press in the past.<br>
>>> 3. Only 0,4% of the Greek population has over 100.000 in the bank.<br>
>>> 4. Greeks usually pay with cash and they have the lowest figure in Europe in electronic transactions. For instance in my household we usually withdraw 2/3 of the money (cash) within the first 2-3 days and we spend them almost immediately to buy food and pay bills.<br>
>>> 5. During the last two years there is a remarkable phenomenon: supermarkets are empty during the whole month and crowded in weekends after payments of pensions and salaries. People buy food and essential goods and after two weeks they have nothing and they try to survive until the end of the month.<br>
>>> 6. During the past weeks every household with small deposits has created his own "ELA" at home now. It is calculated that maybe 20-30b of cash are now at homes, pockets and elsewhere. Officially the amount of cash in the Greek economy i think (if I remember well) is around 45b! This is the reason why the Germans are so angry with ELA, Dragi and ECB.<br>
>>> 7. A bank run is part of the plan of some politicians in Europe in order to shut down the Greek banking system. Greek banks are well capitalized right now. The only way to shut them down is to stop ELA for some reason. a) End of the Greek program (not an easy, controversial decision by the ECB) b) A drop in deposits (due to a bank run) + a haircut of the collaterals of the Greek banks in particularly Greek bonds. Both decisions are very difficult.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Conclusion: normal people have nothing particular to loose with probable capital controls, they might for obvious reasons withdraw more of their salaries these days but these are money that will return in the system some days later.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Now a few things about defaulting:<br>
>>><br>
>>> 1. In case that IMF and ECB are not paid THIS IS NOT OFFICIALLY A DEFAULT. Default is if Greece fails to pay PRIVATE investors. In this case the problem arises by mid july when Greece has to pay back an old loan to Japanese banks.<br>
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>>> Enjoy...<br>
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>>> Best regards<br>
>>> George<br>
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