<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Great, thanks Pat, looking into them and will be giving feedback as soon as I can! </div><div>best,</div><div>Orsan <br><br></div><div>On 19 feb. 2015, at 00:54, Pat Conaty <<a href="mailto:pat.commonfutures@phonecoop.coop">pat.commonfutures@phonecoop.coop</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8">Hi Orsan<div><br></div><div>Thanks for these comments.<br><div><br></div><div>As to your last question, I have done a three part series of short articles on co-operative land reform and co-operative money reform which looks at Polanyi’s plea to take both land and money out of the market and how this has happened historically and periodically every 40 to 50 years since wage labour was created through enclosure - the primitive accumulation of capital.</div><div><br></div><div>So I argue we should go Back to the Future because the hallowed truths of a culture of resistance comes back round again with the vicious Kondratiev curve of Depression.</div><div><br></div><div>Michel and Stacco have posted this series on the Commons Transition website. Here is the link to the first of the three articles on reviving the vernacular concept of co-operative commonwealth or what I call Co-operation in 4 full dimensions.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://commonstransition.org/co-operative-commonwealth-de-commodifying-land-and-money-part-1/">http://commonstransition.org/co-operative-commonwealth-de-commodifying-land-and-money-part-1/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Feedback welcome as John, Michel and I are working on a set of courses on the Co-operative Commons. Be good to talk to you, Brian and Networked Labour about this.</div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>Pat</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On 18 Feb 2015, at 12:34, Orsan <<a href="mailto:orsan1234@gmail.com">orsan1234@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>Yes a good review by Kevin Carson in the USA. Some additional info that could be helpful to some……..thinking about the practicalities of the Great Transition to a commons based new economy.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks a lot Pat, that is very helpful indeed. </div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">Mike Lewis and I did a range of short fully illustrated articles to serialise parts of our book, The Resilience Imperative. I attach a few of these to give a flavour to folks on these lists about a number of co-operative economic democracy solutions. Crucial to all is what Polanyi argued, namely the need to reverse enclosure by taking people, earth and money out of the market as these are false commodities.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>the idea of translating Polanyi's vision and understanding double movement really important for the win, I believe. In the sense of, hacking the material needs becoming dividing lines between individuals, governed classes, and societies, and exploited by the ruling classes. It will sound stupid or naive, but in a was while allowing a mesh networked solidarity at the grassroots. Like house owning pauperized and disspossed low waged workers can support each other both in action and policy wise, at the bottom; groups <span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">who might needs higher basic income and lower taxes for instance can get support from home owners losing their homes like in Spain and in return actions like Pah's can be linked to actions for BI</span>. The visual material you sent gives insights for designing actions in this direction. </div><br><blockquote type="cite">As Kevin points out we do in the book a calculation of what would be the impact on an average household with a couple of kids in North America if a Community Land Trust home, a JAK interest free mortgage fee based mortgage, green energy solutions and local food sourcing were all provided. Here is the calculation over 25 years on a slide further below. You see this is the size of a good pension pot. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>and this is obviously some thing can be linked to green and ecologic justice movements. Could you imagine how all these be integrated with a monetary system Varoufakis was imagining in Michels' last email? thinking and working on these ideas openly this way we may be helpful for both John, in sketching a semi-wiki-action plan, and then these exchanges can become itself part of 'rapid solidarity force' for the emancipation, if we say by not using militaristic terms. </div><div><br></div><div>best, Orsan</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><CCCR - i42011NOV11_CLTs and Affordability.pdf></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div><div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><CCCR - i42012MAR05_Kristianstad.pdf></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div><div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><CCCR - JAK Bank article.pdf></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div><div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><CCCR - i42011DEC15_MHOS.pdf></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div><div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><CCCR - i42011NOV30_CLB.pdf></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"><div><div></div><div><br></div><div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><RI - Hardwicks Pg329.pdf></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><div><div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On 17 Feb 2015, at 11:09, Örsan Şenalp <<a href="mailto:orsan1234@gmail.com">orsan1234@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><div dir="ltr">Guessing I.M. is someone in the Greek delegation from Syriza government? What would really be interesting is to hear whether they had any vision or plan for this moment expected to come, since this was obvious possibility. Since the email sounds like requesting for public support campaign to grow underground. This is partly similar to that we have been trying to think of, on these exchanges, like an emergency deployment force, commons action plan, so on.. the situation now shows that is rather an expressed need by the greek gov? It would be great to know if there is any preparation from syriza's side, for instance if they would support, or encourage, such a commons conference for instance for radical alternatives? Would it be an interest of them? Could anyone who received the above email in the first place, or close to Syriza inform us on that? <div><div> </div><div><br></div><div>Ps: Cant access the original book, but from Kevin's below review of Pat and Mike's book, I got the idea that there is another transition perspective in the book: </div><div><br></div><div><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px"><strong>"Michael Lewis and Pat Conaty. <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Resilience-Imperative-Cooperative-Steady-state/dp/0865717079/" style="color:rgb(184,91,90);font-weight:normal;text-decoration:none">The Resilience Imperative: Cooperative Transitions to a Steady-State Economy</a></em> (New Society Publishers, 2012) 400pp.</strong></p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">This book starts with a macroscopic analysis of where the existing corporate capitalist economy goes wrong — the pathological effects of debt-based currency, a GDP that counts waste as “growth,” etc. — and proceeds to outline a detailed blueprint for a resilient alternative. This latter blueprint, in a series of detailed chapters, examines the authors’ proposals for a sustainable successor society.</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">Most of the proposals are things readers in the green, decentralist and alternative economics communities are probably familiar with: basic guaranteed incomes, barter currencies, taxation of land value and extraction, community land trusts, employee ownership and self-management as the standard business model, etc. Each of them, by itself, involves the kind of fundamental structural change you could spend days imagining the effects of. Taken together, their cumulative effect is the a model of society that makes a “petty bourgeois socialist” like me salivate, and would make P.J. Proudhon and Henry George jump up out of their graves and shout “Hallelujah.”</p><div style="line-height: 1.5em; margin: 0px 0px 15px; padding: 0px; color: rgb(42, 42, 42); font-family: Ubuntu, 'Lucida Grande', Verdana, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12.960000038147px;"><span id="more-29853"></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">In the course of each chapter, the authors examine the pathological effects of a particular structural privilege or monopoly — and in particular, it’s contribution to the cost of living. At the end of the chapter, they present the savings from the average family’s expenditures that would result from their proposed reform, along with a running total of the cumulative savings from previous proposals in the book. By the end of the book, that amounts to a huge portion of average household expenditures.</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">I have a few quibbles; I’m an anarchist, after all. Although the guaranteed basic income coupled with Pigouvian taxation would be a vast improvement on the present system, my preference is for</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">1) letting the full deflationary effect of technological progress and the abolition of monopoly run their course (with a much bigger likely reduction in GDP and prices than even Lewis and Conaty envision);</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">2) distribute the hours of necessary labor as widely as possible through a drastically reduced work week; and</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">3) support the elderly and incapacitated, and those whose productive activity is difficult to monetize, through cost- and risk-pooling mechanisms like communal primary social units (cohousing projects, extended family compounds, urban communes, intentional communities, squatter communities, and the like).</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">Second — a quite minor quibble — I’m skeptical about the authors’ claim that an end to the subsidized corporate food system would significantly raise household food costs. For one thing, I think a lot of food production would be shifted out of the cash nexus altogether, and into the informal and household economy. And even if it takes more labor to grow a tomato in a raised bed than on a mechanized plantation, I still think the total labor involved in growing it via soil-intensive cultivation at the actual site of consumption is probably less than that required to earn the money to pay the price of agribusiness produce (including all the embedded costs of long-distance distribution, high-pressure marketing, batch and queue processing, etc.). Ralph Borsodi’s analysis of the economics of home production is still valid, eighty years later.</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">Third — much more important in my opinion — is their treatment of the idea of “free markets.” For example, here’s their take on the neoliberal policies of recent decades: “When government got out of the way and the free market was unleashed, once again the rich got richer and the poor got poorer.”</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">No. Neoliberalism involved<a href="http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/free-market-reforms-and-the-reduction-of-statism" style="color:rgb(184,91,90);text-decoration:none"> simply weakening some secondary restrictions on the state’s primary grants of privilege</a> to big business and the plutocracy. These primary grants of privilege — the most fundamental structural feature of our economy — were left in place and strengthened. Without all the government-enforced or -provided subsidies, regulatory cartels, artificial property rights and artificial scarcities that now exist — subsidies to extractive industries, the state-enforced banking monopoly, absentee titles to vacant and unimproved land, and “intellectual property” [sic] among them — Fortune 500 corporations and the entire billionaire class would melt like garden slugs with salt on their backs.</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">One thing I especially appreciate is they grok the concept of resilience in its essence, not just some accidental features of it. Their seven principles of resilience on pp. 19-20 include things like redundancy, modularity, and tight feedback loops that should be familiar to readers of John Robb or John Boyd.</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">If you’re the kind of person who’s review in the first place, it’s a safe bet this is the kind of book you’d enjoy. I know I did."</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px">best, Orsan</p><p style="line-height:1.5em;margin:0px 0px 15px;padding:0px;color:rgb(42,42,42);font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.960000038147px"><br></p></div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 February 2015 at 09:55, mp <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mp@aktivix.org" target="_blank">mp@aktivix.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
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