<div dir="ltr">understood Vasilis,<div><br></div><div>but the big danger is that all the energy goes to crisis management, and that the real transformative work is put on hold for when conditions are right ..</div><div><br></div><div>so the only way out is to work on both simultaneously, i.e. work on the crisis while also setting in place the framework for this longer term change,</div><div><br></div><div>Michel</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Vasilis Kostakis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kostakis.b@gmail.com" target="_blank">kostakis.b@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Michel,<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">The passage you shared was written from memory and I cannot find anywhere on the web (perhaps in video format) the explicit reference. However, I think that my memory is good and more or less this was what the vice-present said. Moreover, allow me to share George Papanikolaou's reaction in relation to my message, in which he highlights that Dragasakis's basic idea was that "the european south can open the way to new productive relations". In addition to this, George emphasizes that "the priority now is to stabilize the situation and give us time for experimentation".<br><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Let's see...<br><br>v.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 February 2015 at 17:30, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">This is very important news:<div><br></div><div>perhaps George or Vasilis can find the explicit reference ? especially in english ?</div><div><br></div><div>see:</div><div><br></div><div>"<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> Dragasakis's (vice-president of the government) finale during his speech in the parliament, where he explicitly referred to new bottom-up, Commons-based productive models which will have a global orientation and will fuel Greece's post-crisis sustainable development."</span><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div><img src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></div></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan" target="_blank">http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan</a> </div><div><br></div>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br><br>#82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/</a> <br></div></div>
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