<div dir="ltr">excellent article, thanks Jakob, exactly what we need to explain the importance of Kobane,<div><br></div><div>Kevin, thanks for adding this as an added explanation to our republishing of the Graeber editorial, see <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Autonomy_Region_Rojava">http://p2pfoundation.net/Autonomy_Region_Rojava</a><br><div><br></div><div>Michel<br><div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Jakob Rigi</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rigij@ceu.hu">rigij@ceu.hu</a>></span><br>Date: Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:44 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Networkedlabour] a report on Kurdish women fighters in Kobane and their Feminism<br>To: <a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a><br>Cc: <a href="mailto:networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org">networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org</a>, <a href="mailto:anna@shsh.co.uk">anna@shsh.co.uk</a><br><br><br><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">H<span style="line-height:1.6em;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10px;text-transform:uppercase">E WAR IN SYRIA</span><div style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 50px;border:none;outline:0px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10px"><div style="padding:0px;margin:0px auto;border:none;outline:0px;width:960px"><div style="padding:0px;margin:20px 0px;border:none;outline:0px;font-size:1px;min-height:1px;line-height:1px;background-color:rgb(102,51,153)"> </div><div style="padding:0px;margin:0px 30px 0px 0px;border:none;outline:0px;float:left;display:inline;width:200px;font-size:11px;line-height:16px"> </div><div style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px;float:left;display:inline;width:730px;font-size:14px;line-height:20px"><h1 style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 15px;border:none;outline:0px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(102,0,153);font-family:'Open Sans',sans-serif;font-size:24px;line-height:30px;letter-spacing:-1px">A ‘Revolution’ under Attack – the Alternative in midst the War in Syria</h1></div><div style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px;clear:both;font-size:1px;min-height:1px;line-height:1px"> </div><div style="padding:0px;margin:0px 30px 0px 0px;border:none;outline:0px;float:left;display:inline;width:200px;font-size:11px;line-height:16px"><div style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 20px;border:none;outline:0px"><div style="padding:10px;margin:14px 0px 0px;border:1px solid rgb(221,221,221);outline:0px;clear:both;overflow:hidden;background:rgb(249,249,249)"><div style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px;float:left"><h2 style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px;font-weight:normal;color:rgb(102,0,153);font-family:'Open Sans',sans-serif">Ulrike Flader</h2><img alt="" src="http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/990890287d5ee327041e01e522c5a16d?s=96&d=http%3A%2F%2F1.gravatar.com%2Favatar%2Fad516503a11cd5ca435acc9bb6523536%3Fs%3D96&r=G" height="96" width="96" style="padding: 5px; margin: 5px 10px 0.5px 0px; border: none; outline: 0px; float: left;"><div style="padding:0px;margin:5px 0px 0px;border:none;outline:0px"><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 10px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">Ulrike is a PhD candidate in the Department of Sociology at the University of Manchester. Her ethnographic research focusses on everyday resistance practices of the Kurdish population in Turkey. Drawing from the notions of power and resistance in the work of Michel Foucault and Judith Butler, she analyses forms of everyday resistance against state policies of assimilation. 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margin: 0px 20px 5px 0px; border: none; outline: 0px; float: left; display: inline; max-width: 730px;">This region – which consists of three geographically disconnected enclaves along the Turkish border – strategically used the deteriorating situation to declare self-rule in July 2012 and has since been celebrated as the “Rojava Revolution” within the Kurdish Movement associated around the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK). The population of Rojava, which has long been a stronghold of the PKK, is predominantly made up of Kurds – both Muslim and Yezidi[1] – as well as Arabs, Christian Assyrians, Armenians, Turkmen and Chechens. The desire for some form of self-determination especially among the Kurds was triggered through decades of denial of basic citizenship rights under the Assad-regime.</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">This quiet revolution is, however, not a question of independence. It is not the founding of yet another nation-state. Deliberately declaring itself an <em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">autonomy</em> <em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">region</em> instead of a state, derived from the critique of existing nation-states with their homogenising and exclusionary principals of citizenship, centralism of government and non-democratic structures under which the Kurds in Iran, Iraq, Turkey and Syria have suffered on the one hand and the strategies of classic national liberation movements on the other. This critique along with an alternative model of “democratic autonomy” was brought forward by the imprisoned leader of the PKK, Abdullah Öcalan, and replaced the earlier struggle for independence. The concept of democratic autonomy is envisaged along the lines of libertarian thinker Murray Bookchin as a decentralised, radical democracy within or despite the given nation-states which abides by principals of equality between genders, religious- and ethnic affiliations as well as ecology[2]. In this sense, the PKK and its affiliated organisation PYD (Democratic Union Party) in Syria are promoting this model, whose fundamental principal is to achieve a unity of all different faiths and ethnic groups without assimilating them, for the whole of the Middle East.</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">Within the past one and a half years the outnumbered Syrian military has been expelled from most parts of the region; police, secret service, and the civil service of the old regime have been dismantled, and the legal and education system transformed. Additionally, despite the detrimental security situation, central institutions for the most radical changes have been established in three main areas: the introduction of direct self-government through communes, assurance of equal participation in all areas of decision-making for all faith and ethnic groups and the strengthening of the position of women.</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">Aiming at decentralizing decision-making and realizing self-rule, village- or street communes consisting of 30-150 households have been organised. These communes decide on questions regarding administration, electricity, provision of nutrition, as well as discussing and solving other social problems. They have commissions for the organisation of defence, justice, infrastructure, ecology, youth, as well as economy. Some have erected communal cooperatives, e.g. bakeries, sewing workshops or agricultural initiatives[3]. They also organise the support of the poorest of the community with basic nutrition and fuel. Delegates of the communes form together a council for 7-10 villages or a city-district, and every city has yet another city council. The city council is made up of representatives of the communes, all political parties, the organisation of the fallen fighters, the women’s organisation, and the youth organisation. All councils as well as the communes have a 40% quota for women. The decisions are to be made on basis of consensus and equal speaking-time is enforced. Besides this, a co-chairperson system has been implemented for all organisations, which means that all councils have both a female and male chairperson. All members are suggested and elected by the population. However, according to the co-president of the PYD, Salih Muslim, this radical change from dictatorship to this form of self-rule is not an easy process: “The people are learning how to govern themselves”[4].</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">This change in decision-making has also brought about a radical change in the legal system: the establishment of “peace and consensus committees”[5]. These committees, which originally developed as leftist Kurdish underground institutions in the cities of the Kurdish region of Syria in the <a href="tel:1990" value="+661990" target="_blank">1990</a> and were severely repressed in the 2000s, have resumed their importance with the uprising, and have transformed into the basic structure and fundamental principal of the new legal system. The aim of these committees, which attend to all general legal questions and disputes apart from severe crimes such as murder, is to achieve a consensus between the conflicting parties and in doing so a lasting settlement. In a general assembly of all residents every commune elects the 5-9 members of its local peace and consensus committee (40% of which have to be women) according to their ability to facilitate such a consensus in discussion among between the parties. It is emphasized that these members should not be co-opted by traditional authorities, but democratically elected and in accordance with the gender-equality principal. These peace and consensus committees also exist on the district level, whose members are elected by the popular councils on that level respectively. Parallel women-only committees have been established which specifically attend cases of crimes against women, such as domestic violence, forced-marriages and multiple marriages. Cases which cannot be solved in this consensus-finding way are forwarded on to higher institutions which exist on city, regional and canton level. Courts of appeals have been established in every region and a constitutional court is concerned with the further development of the constitution which has however been framed as a “social contract”[6].</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">The decision to agree on a <em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">social contract</em> instead of a constitution is the manifestation of the centrality of the multi-faith/ethnicity principal behind the concept of the democratic autonomy in Rojava. This contract, which developed out of meetings among representatives of different ethnic and belief groups, has the aim to secure safety and self-rule to all groups. All groups are to be equally present and active in decision-making on political as well as economic and social questions and their right to self-determination is to be ensured not only through self-rule on village-level, but also through the right to organise themselves autonomously on other levels. According to the report of a delegation which visited the region in May this year, the participation of Arabs an Assyrians is steadily increasing in all areas[7]. All groups are also supported in participating in the armed wing YPG or founding their own self-defence groups, as the Assyrians have done most recently.</p><div style="padding:10px 8px;margin:0px 20px 5px 0px;border:1px solid rgb(233,233,233);outline:0px;float:left;display:inline;text-align:center;width:310px;background-color:rgb(249,249,249)"><a href="http://www.movements.manchester.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/rojava1.jpg" style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,153)" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.movements.manchester.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/rojava1-300x168.jpg" alt="Image: ANF" width="300" height="168" style="padding: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 10px; border: 0px none; outline: 0px; max-width: 730px; width: auto; background: none;"></a><p style="padding:4px 0px 0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.4em;font-size:11px">Image: ANF</p></div><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">Similarly, the empowerment of women is not only to be achieved through the presence of women in all parts of decision-making processes through the 40% quota, the co-chairperson system, woman’s legal committees, but also through the establishment of their own military wing YPJ (Women’s Defence Unit)[8]. In an interview, co-president of PYD, Asya Abdullah, argues that the movement in Syria has learned from other revolutions that the women’s question cannot be left until after the revolution. Instead, women in Rojava are playing a leading role in politics, diplomacy, social questions, in the building of a new democratic family structure as well as in self-defence[9]. According to her the self-government structures as well as the self-organisation of women are just as important as the existing independent education institutions and seminars, and the projects to enhance women’s economic independence.</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">This attempt for a peaceful democratic transformation in co-existence to the state, but on the premises of grassroots self-determination, pluralism and gender-equality is, unfortunately, not welcomed by all in the region. The most recent heavy attacks on the canton of Kobani by ISIS fighters indicate a greater interest in annihilating this autonomy region, which is identified with an increasing strength of the PKK in the region. The Turkish government has reacted sharply to claims made by <em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">New York Times</em> and other media that it is, in one way or another, supporting ISIS fighters[10]. Yet the PKK sees these accusations as grounded. Such cooperation raises strong doubts on the sincerity of the government towards the peace talks which it has been holding with Öcalan over the past year. The PKK has warned that it could put an end to the ceasefire it had declared to facilitate a possible peace process[11]. For those who have made their way from all parts of Turkey to the Syrian border to protest and are organising marches and rallies in many cities across Europe, Rojava is not only the test-ground for an alternative democracy in the region, but also a bastion against ISIS.</p><hr style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px"><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em"> </p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[1] The majority of Yezidi Kurds live in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq. The attack of ISIS on the city of Sinjar and the massacre on its inhabitants triggered strong international attention and the decision for intervention in the US. Since then, many Yezidi Kurds were helped to flee into Rojava by the Syrian wing of PKK-guerrilla fighters (YPG).</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[2]Gunes, Cengiz (2012) The Kurdish National Movement in Turkey. From Protest to Resistance. New York: Routledge; also see Biehl, Janet (2012) “Bookchin, Öcalan, and the Dialectics of Democracy”,<em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">New Compass</em>, <a href="http://new-compass.net/articles/bookchin-%C3%B6calan-and-dialectics-democracy" target="_blank">http://new-compass.net/articles/bookchin-%C3%B6calan-and-dialectics-democracy</a>, accessed 20.02.2012</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[3] Knapp, Micheal (2014) „Die Demokratische Autonomie in Rojava. Ziel ist eine demokratische Lösung für den gesamten Mittleren Osten“, <em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">Kurdistan Report</em> 174, <a href="http://www.kurdistan-report.de/index.php/archiv/2014/174/154-ziel-ist-eine-demokratische-loesung-fuer-den-gesamten-mittleren-osten" target="_blank">http://www.kurdistan-report.de/index.php/archiv/2014/174/154-ziel-ist-eine-demokratische-loesung-fuer-den-gesamten-mittleren-osten</a>, accessed 25.09.2014</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[4] Interview with Co-president of PYD, Salih Muslim, “Die Menschen lernen, sich selbst zu bestimmen“, <em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">Kurdistan Report</em> 175, <a href="http://www.kurdistan-report.de/index.php/archiv/2014/175/177-die-menschen-lernen-sich-selbst-zu-bestimmen" target="_blank">http://www.kurdistan-report.de/index.php/archiv/2014/175/177-die-menschen-lernen-sich-selbst-zu-bestimmen</a>, accessed 25.09.2014.</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[5] Ayboğa, Ercan (2014) “Das neue Rechtssystem in Rojava. Der Konsens ist Entscheidend“,<em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">Kurdistan Report</em> 175, <a href="http://www.kurdistan-report.de/index.php/archiv/2014/175/178-der-konsens-ist-entscheidend" target="_blank">http://www.kurdistan-report.de/index.php/archiv/2014/175/178-der-konsens-ist-entscheidend</a>, accessed 25.09.2014.</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[6] See “Charter of the Social Contract” of Rojava under <a href="http://peaceinkurdistancampaign.com/resources/rojava/charter-of-the-social-contract/" target="_blank">http://peaceinkurdistancampaign.com/resources/rojava/charter-of-the-social-contract/</a>, accessed 26.09.2014</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[7] Knapp 2014.</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[8] Interview with Îlham Ehmed, Representative of the Kurdish Women’s Movement in Rojava and Member of the Kurdish Highest Council: Civaka Azad (2014) “Perspektiven der Frauenbewegung in Rojava”, <a href="http://civaka-azad.org/perspektiven-der-frauenbewegung-rojava/" target="_blank">http://civaka-azad.org/perspektiven-der-frauenbewegung-rojava/</a>, accessed 25.09.2014</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[9] Interview with Asya Abdullah Co-President of PYD: Öğünç, Pınar (2014) “Kadın özgür değilse demokrasi olmaz”, <em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">Radikal</em>, 22.08.2013, <a href="http://www.radikal.com.tr/yazarlar/pinar_ogunc/kadin_ozgur_degilse_demokrasi_olmaz-1147222" target="_blank">http://www.radikal.com.tr/yazarlar/pinar_ogunc/kadin_ozgur_degilse_demokrasi_olmaz-1147222</a>, accessed 25.09.2014</p><p style="padding:0px;margin:0px 0px 14px;border:none;outline:0px;line-height:1.6em">[10] Official summary of President Erdoğan’s speech at Assembly of the Confederation of Turkish Crafts- and Tradesmen (TESK): TCCB (2014) “We do not accept and have never accepted the notion of Islamic terrorism”, <a href="http://www.tccb.gov.tr/news/397/91043/we-do-not-accept-and-have-never-accepted-the-notion-of-islamic-terrorism.html" target="_blank">http://www.tccb.gov.tr/news/397/91043/we-do-not-accept-and-have-never-accepted-the-notion-of-islamic-terrorism.html</a>, accessed 25.09.2014; The speech refers to this article published in the New York Times on the 15.09.2014: Yeginsu, Ceylan (2014) “ISIS Draws a Steady Stream of Recruits from Turkey”, <em style="padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">New York Times</em>, 15.09.2014, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/world/europe/turkey-is-a-steady-source-of-isis-recruits.html" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/16/world/europe/turkey-is-a-steady-source-of-isis-recruits.html</a>, accessed 25.09.2014.</p></div></div></div><span style="line-height:1.6em;font-size:14px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">[11] Declaration of Cemil Bayık, Co-President of the Executive Council of the Union of Kurdistan Communities (KCK) see Firatnews (2014) “Bayık: We may end the cease-fire”,</span><span style="line-height:1.6em;font-size:14px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><em style="line-height:1.6em;font-size:14px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;padding:0px;margin:0px;border:none;outline:0px">firatnews,</em><span style="line-height:1.6em;font-size:14px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><span style="line-height:1.6em;font-size:14px;color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">27.09.2014, <a href="http://en.firatajans.com/news/news/bayik-we-may-end-the-cease-fire.htm" target="_blank">http://en.firatajans.com/news/news/bayik-we-may-end-the-cease-fire.htm</a>, accessed 27.09.201</span>i Michel,<div>the article below I think answer your question. Please publish it in your p2p website of course with your own comments.</div><div>best</div><div>Jakob</div><br><div><br><div><br><br>>>> Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>> 10/08/14 4:50 PM >>><br><div dir="ltr">thanks!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 9:48 PM, Jakob Rigi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rigij@ceu.hu" target="_blank">rigij@ceu.hu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Michel,<br><div>to be honest I don`t know about that, I will enquire from friends who have better knowledge on these cantons. I use the socialist in two senses. First, the political leadership of the communities are socialist, second, they have a collective administration based on direct democracy. Of course, if the means of production are not collectivized, they are not yet socialist, but have important socialist elements. They also promote equality between men and women and people who belong to different faiths and different ethnicities.So, you are right I use the term in a loose way. </div><br><div>I will share it if I will get information on your question. </div><br><div>take care</div><div>Jakob<br><div><br><br>>>> Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>> 10/08/14 4:36 PM >>><div><div><br><div dir="ltr">jakob,<br><div>can you give us details about what qualifies these republics as socialist ? Do they have collective ownership of their means of production ? or what are the characteristics that make them socialist in your view ?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Jakob Rigi <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rigij@ceu.hu" target="_blank">rigij@ceu.hu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Hi Anna,<br><div>Any movement and action that promotes women agency, their self-determination and the equality between men and women is feminist. Kurdish cantons do all these, therefore they are feminist. That Kurdish women fighters defend themselves and their feminist-socialist republics with guns against Isis fascist is perfectly a feminist action, otherwise they would be taken like Yazedi women as captives and sold to Islamic fascists to serve as sex slaves in their Harems. </div><br><div>Further any genuine revolutionary movement like the Kurdish movement in Syria to the extent that it Strengthen equality, collectivity, care and love is feminist. Yes, collectivity, care and love are core feminist values and there are the principles of Kurdish movement in Syria. Thus the Kurdish cantons are feminized by being saturated by these values. This is starkly pronounced in the roles women play in the political and military life.</div><br><div>A question from you Anna and others who do not consider these fighters as feminists. What can be the real face of feminism in the Kurdish Cantons of Syria just now? What will be the feminist politics there? </div><br><div>with best wishes</div><div>Jakob</div><div><br><div><br><br>>>> Anna <<a href="mailto:anna@shsh.co.uk" target="_blank">anna@shsh.co.uk</a>> 10/08/14 12:01 AM >>><span class=""><div><div><br><div><span></span></div><div><div><span></span></div><div><div>I wonder what it is which identifies these young attractive soldiers as Feminists? Because they have a woman in charge?, because they are an exclusively female group?, because they see themselves as equal to men in strength and military discipline?, because they have fun together, and think of each other as sisters?</div><br><div>Is Feminism the ability of women to do what men do, in a world forged by men, or is it the ability to create a different reality for themselves? Certainly their capacity to step out of the roles that tie them to domestic chores is liberating, but how sad that the only way out is to take on military roles, to compete with men at their own game, and most probably to incur injury or death in the process.</div><br><div>Anna</div><br><br><div>On 4 Oct 2014, at 17:03, "Jakob Rigi" <<a href="mailto:rigij@ceu.hu" target="_blank">rigij@ceu.hu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>Hi All,</div><br><div>Attached is an excellent report on Kurdish women fighters and their feminism.</div><br><div>Jakob<br><br>>>> Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>> 10/04/14 12:39 AM >>><br><div dir="ltr">thanks Jakob!</div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></span></div></div> </div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br><span class="">-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan" target="_blank">http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan</a> </div><br>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br><br>#82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/</a> <br></div> </span></div> </div></div></div></div> </div></blockquote></div><span class=""><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div>Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: <a href="http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan" target="_blank">http://en.wiki.floksociety.org/w/Research_Plan</a> </div><br>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br><br>#82 on the (En)Rich list: <a href="http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/" target="_blank">http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/</a> <br></div> </span></div> </div></div>
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