<div dir="ltr">this is not about opinions Quirilo,<div><br></div><div>it's about a systematic policy of defamation and disinformation,</div><div><br></div><div>in my case, I was accused of being an austrian economist, while i am in opposition to it, david is accused of doing his commons work for political gain, allianzia solidaria in quito, the best coop we've seen in 6 months of study, was accused etc .. etc ... it is the standard operating procedure of willi and it degrades the culture of discourse</div>
<div><br></div><div>stick to arguments, don't use freedom of speech to systematically attack the personal integrity of your brothers and comrades,</div><div><br></div><div>you are free to do this, but not here,</div><div>
<br></div><div>refrain from personal attacks, and there is absolute no issue of staying on the list</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Quiliro Ordóñez Baca <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quiliro@congresolibre.org" target="_blank">quiliro@congresolibre.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I feel someone's exclusion because they speak their mind out is the<br>
worst kind of censorship. The worst insult a person can suffer is<br>
censorship. I think that it is only seen where people of low cultural<br>
level stay. It is fear of being disapproved which motivates censorship.<br>
It is low self esteem. "Get out or I will kick you out" is a very bully<br>
kind of attitude.<br>
<br>
I was asking to become part of this list. But censorship does not make<br>
me feel there is a neutral point of view or an academic environment but<br>
a dogmatic one. Please ignore my petitions to subscribe to this list.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
El 21/08/14 a las 20:51, willi uebelherr escibió:<br>
><br>
> Dear Kevin,<br>
><br>
> i respect your doing and can accept it. I am new on your list, we<br>
> never find a clear base of our principles and vision. So, what can i<br>
> do on this list? To look for interest contribution i can use the archive.<br>
><br>
> With the request from Michel i saw, this is a private space from<br>
> Michel and, maybe, you have to act like an employee. I don't<br>
> understand the backsides. Gordon talked about. You can also shorten<br>
> the period. This is my last mail to the list.<br>
><br>
> 3 persons vote for exclusion, 2 persons was not sure, 1 person<br>
> against. Maybe, some people vote silent for exclusion. They have no<br>
> power to speak open.<br>
><br>
> I know, this is a personal conflict from Michel with me since the FLOK<br>
> project. Never i attacked a person on this list. I have criticized,<br>
> have questioned. And this i always do it. And i like people, they do<br>
> the same. I hate people without agreement of thinking and doing. I<br>
> know, many people don't like this style. They want to speak around.<br>
><br>
> many greetings, willi<br>
> Popayan, Colombia<br>
><br>
><br>
> Am 21/08/2014 um 20:21 schrieb Kevin Flanagan:<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">>> Dear Willi,<br>
>><br>
>> I do not make decisions to unsubscribe people from the list<br>
>> unilaterally. Many people have complained both publicly and privately<br>
>> about your behaviour. Personal attacks are not acceptable.<br>
>><br>
>> In the case of this mailing list. Where an individual is not willing to<br>
>> abide by the culture and norms of the list then s/he are welcome to<br>
>> unsubscribe and move on.<br>
>><br>
>> I am offering you here a opportunity to resolve this conflict.<br>
>> Here are the terms. It's really quite simple.<br>
>><br>
>> If in the next 24 hours from the time of this email you are willing to<br>
>> reconsider your behavior on this list, apologize for that behavior<br>
>> publicly on list and will refrain from further personal attacks in<br>
>> future. Then you are welcome to stay.<br>
>><br>
>> If these terms are not acceptable then I offer you 24hrs from the time<br>
>> of this email to unsubscribe. If you have not unsubscribed in that time<br>
>> I will exercise my responsibilities as list moderator and will do it for<br>
>> you.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards<br>
>><br>
>> Kevin Flanagan<br>
>> P2P Foundation Mailing List Moderator<br>
>><br>
><br>
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</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
Saludos libres,<br>
Quiliro Ordóñez<br>
600 8579<br>
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