<div dir="ltr">In my view, Willi's unfunded accusation and slander of David Bollier, a leading light of the commons movement, is sufficient reason to block him from this list.<div><br></div><div>george</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Kevin Flanagan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kev.flanagan@gmail.com" target="_blank">kev.flanagan@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Yes James Burke and I are the list moderators.<br>
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This mailing list is managed on behalf of the community by the<br>
foundation to share and build knowledge and experience and to support<br>
those that wish to make concrete contributions working with movements<br>
for the commons. David Bollier is one such person.<br>
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We at the P2P Foundation pride ourselves on maintaining a pluralistic<br>
forum where diverse views can be shared, debated and discussed.<br>
Holding such a space where people feel comfortable to contribute and<br>
engage in a constructive manner has to date required little or no<br>
moderation and the culture on the list has been for the most part one of<br>
mutual respect and comradery. Constructive debate and discussion is<br>
always welcome, however it must be affirmed that this is a community<br>
list and a community service. It is not acceptable for any individual to<br>
use this list as a platform for launching personal attacks against other<br>
community members.<br>
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As I have said we pride ourselves on being tolerant and the last thing<br>
we want to do is block people from the list.<br>
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Willi I do not have the time, interest or desire to engage with your<br>
provocations.<br>
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If it is the desire of the community and the management of the P2P<br>
Foundation that your are blocked from the list then I will do so.<br>
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Michel Bauwens:<br>
> I used to maintain a strong rule of no personal attacks on the list, but I<br>
> must say I have gotten tired to be the only one reacting,<br>
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> Willi, who is notorious for these kinds of attacks and false accusations,<br>
> is clearly making a gratuitous accusation against our friend David Bollier,<br>
> whom I know as a lifelong activist for the commons, at great personal<br>
> sacrifice, and the contrary of someone who uses the commons for private<br>
> personal gain.<br>
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> does everyone find that normal ? do we have to the time to spend answering<br>
> such provocations ?<br>
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> personally, it is here that I would give a warning to Willi, and say, this<br>
> is not the place for such unsupported attacks, and please abstain or you<br>
> will have to leave this forum.<br>
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> But for Willi, this is just been systematic practice, so the warnings have<br>
> been repeated endlessly in various forums, and it has had no effect,<br>
><br>
> So I'm requesting the removal of Willi from this list, as he has been<br>
> removed recently from the networked labour list, exactly for the same<br>
> reason,<br>
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> Kevin, as list manager, I believe this is your job?<br>
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> personal defamation is not an acceptable practice on this list,<br>
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> I am not going to get into a debate on this, but if any people would find<br>
> it such practices normal, I would propose to disband this list and start a<br>
> new one where this rule is made clear from the very beginning, avoiding<br>
> endless discussions on it,<br>
><br>
> Michel Bauwens<br>
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> Date: Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM<br>
> Subject: P2P-Foundation Digest, Vol 44, Issue 43<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org</a><br>
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> Message: 2<br>
> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 09:49:22 -0500<br>
> From: willi uebelherr <<a href="mailto:willi.uebelherr@gmail.com">willi.uebelherr@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: [P2P-F] Fwd: Book of the Day: Think Like a Commoner<br>
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> Dear friends,<br>
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> i love the contributions of hartsellml. You think, David Bollier is<br>
> working for the commons?<br>
><br>
> No. You see, he want to sell his books only. Try to find a free access<br>
> to his writing. He use the commons resource, our discussion, our<br>
> visions, our doing, our history to make a private buisness with his<br>
> description.<br>
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> many greetings, willi<br>
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> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht --------<br>
> Betreff: Book of the Day: Think Like a Commoner<br>
> Datum: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:35:36 PDT<br>
> Von: hartsellml<br>
><br>
> Book of the Day: Think Like a Commoner<br>
><br>
> ** Book: Think Like a Commoner<br>
> <<a href="http://www.newsociety.com/Books/T/Think-Like-a-Commoner" target="_blank">http://www.newsociety.com/Books/T/Think-Like-a-Commoner</a>>. A Short<br>
> Introduction to the Life of the Commons by David Bollier. New Society, 2014*<br>
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