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Date: Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:13 AM<br>Subject: [Networkedlabour] Fwd: Peter Waterman Suspended From UnionBook...by Eric Lee of LabourStart Fame?!<br>To: "<a href="mailto:networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org">networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org">networkedlabour@lists.contrast.org</a>><br>
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Date: 25 July 2014 00:10<br>Subject: Re: Peter Waterman Suspended From UnionBook...by Eric Lee of LabourStart Fame?!<br>To: Peter Waterman <<a href="mailto:peterwaterman1936@gmail.com" target="_blank">peterwaterman1936@gmail.com</a>><br>
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<br><br><div dir="ltr"><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.31999969482422px">Dear Peter, you are lucky that you didn't get a drone attack or your house occupied.. </p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.31999969482422px">I did the below post and uploaded your letter on Scribd, this would open the discussion up hopefulluy.. amazing how everybody sits quite against this barbarism being defended openly by LabourStart. </p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.31999969482422px">In my humble opinion if there won't be a LabourStart campaing against Israel's barbarism, then it means there is a need for a homcooked campaign against the LaborStart's zionism. </p>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.31999969482422px">In solidarity, </p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.31999969482422px">
<br></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.31999969482422px">"I have received the below open letter from someone who is very well-known by devoting his life time efforts to international and global solidarity and social emancipation: Peter Waterman. Peter, though, did put a stress on labour internationalism of which he saw that the solidarity between unions is only one and a small part in the broad picture. Coming from a Jewish family himslef he, has been openly critical of Zionism and Israel’s ever-expanding a barbaric occupation on Pa<span style="display:inline">lestinian territory.</span></p>
<div style="display:inline;color:rgb(20,24,35);font-family:Helvetica,Arial,'lucida grande',tahoma,verdana,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:19.31999969482422px"><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px">Peter had been actively blogging about global labour and union solidarity in his blog page on Unionbook, since 2008-9. I say he ‘had’ because, the ‘owner’ of the Unionbook and its mother project LabourStart, Eric Lee, self-claiming ‘democratic socialist’ yet who is also known with his over sympathy to the Israeli state, who is the owner and the administrator of the Unionbook did ban Waterman’s user account two days ago. Eric created the Unionbook on Ning servers, which belongs to the corporation owned by Zuckerberg’s ex-partner -also the creator of Napster. Altouhg Unionbook thought as a social network site for all the unionists of the world it did manage to attract at around 5600 international unionist as its users. Lee cut off Peter’s communication, as Israel cuts off Gazza’s roads, food and electriciry. So now Peter has no access to his acount, pages, posts etc. on Unionbook, so he can not responde this move using his own blog page.<br>
In the below open letter Peter makes a guess about the possible reason behind this ‘occupation’ of his cybersland by Lee and invites him to discuss the issue publicly -may be a ‘two network admin solution’ (?). According to Peter Waterman the ban came right after he re-blogged Lee’s own article where Lee openly supports recent war/sate-terrorism launched on Gazza. Waterman gives details from his perspective and indicates the limits of the marriage between ideologies like Zionism, as well as other nationalisms and internationalism.<br>
<br></p><p style="margin:0px 0px 6px">Now you can read on, as Peter always sez:<br><a href="http://snuproject.wordpress.com/2014/07/24/open-letter-from-peter-waterman-asking-eric-lee-of-labour-start-the-reason-why-he-is-suspended-and-banned-from-unionbook-24-07-14/" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(59,89,152);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">http://snuproject.wordpress.com/2014/07/24/open-letter-from-peter-waterman-asking-eric-lee-of-labour-start-the-reason-why-he-is-suspended-and-banned-from-unionbook-24-07-14/</a><br>
View this document on Scribd" </p></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 July 2014 21:30, peter waterman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:peterwaterman1936@gmail.com" target="_blank">peterwaterman1936@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><b><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"American Typewriter";color:red">Peter Waterman Suspended/Banned from Union Book:</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"American Typewriter";color:red">An Open
Letter to the Labour Internationalist Community</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span style="font-size:14pt;font-family:"American Typewriter""><a href="mailto:peterwaterman1936@gmail.com" target="_blank">peterwaterman1936@gmail.com</a></span></p>
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</div><div style="font-size:small;display:inline">See attachment for more.<br><br></div><div style="font-size:small;display:inline">Feel free to copy the attachment through to your own networks.<br>
<br></div><div style="font-size:small;display:inline">In solidarity,<br><br></div><div style="font-size:small;display:inline">Peter Waterman</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><span><font color="#888888"><br>
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<li><b><font><span></span><font size="1"><span><span>EBook, November 2012:</span> <a href="http://www.into-ebooks.com/book/recovering_internationalism/" target="_blank">Recovering
Internationalism</a>. </span><span><font color="#ff0000">[A compilation of papers from the new millenium. Now free in two download formats]</font></span><span><span><a href="http://www.into-ebooks.com/book/world_social_forum/" target="_blank"></span></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,0,0)"><span></a></span></span><span><span><a href="http://www.into-ebooks.com/book/world_social_forum/" target="_blank"></span></span><span style="background-color:rgb(255,0,0)"><span></a></span></span></font></font></b></li>
<li><b><font size="1"><span><span>EBook (co-editor), February 2013: World Social Forum: Critical Explorations <a href="http://www.into-ebooks.com/book/world_social_forum/" target="_blank"></font>http://www.into-ebooks.com/book/world_social_forum/<font color="#ff0000"> </a></span></span><span><span><br>
</span></span></font></b></li><li><b><font size="1"><span>Interface
Journal<span> Special (co-editor), November 2012:</span> </span><span style="font-weight:normal"><a href="http://www.interfacejournal.net/current/" target="_blank">For the Global Emancipation of Labour</a></span></font></b>
</li><li><b><font size="1"><span lang="NL">Blog:</span><span lang="NL"> <a href="http://www.unionbook.org/profile/peterwaterman." target="_blank">http://www.unionbook.org/profile/peterwaterman.</a>
</span></font></b></li><li><b><font size="1">Interface Journal Special (Co-Editor) Social Movement Internationalisms. <a href="http://www.interfacejournal.net/" target="_blank">See Call for Papers</a>, <font color="#ff0000">(Deadline: May 1, 2014). </font></font></b></li>
<li><b><font size="1"><font color="#ff0000"><a href="http://interfacejournal.nuim.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Interface-1-2-pp255-262-Waterman.pdf" target="_blank"></font></font></span></font><font color="#000000">Needed: a Global Labour Charter Movement<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"><font color="#000000"> <font color="#ff0000">(2005-Now!)<br>
</a></font></font></b></li><li><b><font size="1"><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#000000"><a href="http://www.into-ebooks.com/book/under-against-beyond/" target="_blank"><font color="red"><b>MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "www.into-ebooks.com" claiming to be</b></font> Under, Against, Beyond: Labour and Social Movements Confront a Globalised, Informatised Capitalism </a>(2011) <font color="#ff0000">Almost 1,000 pages of Working Papers, free, from the 1980's-90's</font>.</font></font></font></b></li>
<li><b><font size="1"><font color="#ff0000"><font color="#000000">Google Scholar Citation Index:</font></font></font></b><br><span style="display:block"> <b><font size="1"><a href="http://scholar.google.com.pe/citations?user=e0e6Qa4AAAAJ" target="_blank">http://scholar.google.com.pe/citations?user=e0e6Qa4AAAAJ</a> </font></b><br>
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