Yes, Edu, even as we wake up to see how we were shaped by the system we also realise how we are trapped in it, and recreate it ourselves. But that knowledge also gives us power.<br><br>Personally for me there has to be a short term payback as well as thinking of the benefit in the long term. If it was just down to imagining what it would be like <b><i>if</i></b> billions of us did the same that would not motivate me. What does it for me is connecting with the authentic voice within me, which is to do with having the courage to trust myself no matter what.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:59 PM, �rsan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:orsan1234@gmail.com" target="_blank">orsan1234@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I think this is exactly the point that brings p2p and commons together: imagining billions of us would do a little or as much as we could to produce and/or protect the commons, the results would be giant like wikipedia or similar experiences. can be good to think of various levels and translevel implications in terms of solving porblems of governance and contuniation.<br>
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On 19 jul. 2013, at 19:24, Patrick Anderson <<a href="mailto:agnucius@gmail.com">agnucius@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I think the tragedy of the commons is also<br>
> partly caused by a feeling of helplessness<br>
> combined with the (partially true) belief<br>
> that things are already so bad and the<br>
> amount we each add, individually, is so<br>
> small, that it hardly matters whether each<br>
> of us adds to the problem or not and so<br>
> we choose the short-term benefits over<br>
> the long-term benefits because it seems<br>
> (it feels as though) no matter what we do,<br>
> the end result will be the same.<br>
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