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Date: Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:37 PM<br>Subject: Lets not confuse Chrematistics with Economics ! + Barefoot Economics, Manfred Max-Neef<br>To: Marilyn Mehlmann <<a href="mailto:mmehlmann@gmail.com">mmehlmann@gmail.com</a>>, Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>>, Pavlik elf <<a href="mailto:perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org">perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org</a>><br>
<br><br><div>Lets not confuse <b>Chrematistics</b> ( art of acquisition ) with <b>Economics</b> ( art of managing the household ) !</div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5EURJI9x9Qs#t=300s" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5EURJI9x9Qs#t=300s</a></div>
<div>( found via Michel Bauwen's fb )</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrematistics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrematistics</a></div><div><br></div><div><b style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">Chrematistics</b><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> (from Greek: </span><i style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">χρηματιστική</i><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">) according to </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales" title="Thales" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">Thales of Miletus</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> <b><u>is the art of getting rich.</u></b></span></div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle" title="Aristotle" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">Aristotle</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> established the fundament</span><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">al difference between economics and chrematistics. The </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_accumulation" title="Capital accumulation" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">accumulation</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> of money itself is an unnatural activity that dehumanizes those who practice it. Like </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato" title="Plato" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">Plato</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">, he condemns the accumulation of wealth. Trade exchanges money for goods and </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usury" title="Usury" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">usury</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> creates money from money. The merchant does not produce anything: both are reprehensible from the standpoint of philosophical ethics.</span></div>
<div><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div></div><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics</a></div>
<div><br></div><div><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">The term </span><i style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">economics</i><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> comes from the </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek" title="Ancient Greek" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">Ancient Greek</a> <span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"></span><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif" lang="grc"><a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BF%E1%BC%B0%CE%BA%CE%BF%CE%BD%CE%BF%CE%BC%CE%AF%CE%B1" title="wikt:οἰκονομία" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">οἰκονομία</a></span><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> (</span><i style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"><span lang="grc-Latn">oikonomia</span></i><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">, "management of a household, administration") from </span><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif" lang="grc"><a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BF%E1%BC%B6%CE%BA%CE%BF%CF%82" title="wikt:οἶκος" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">οἶκος</a></span><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> (</span><i style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"><span lang="grc-Latn">oikos</span></i><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">, "house") + </span><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif" lang="grc"><a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BD%CF%8C%CE%BC%CE%BF%CF%82" title="wikt:νόμος" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">νόμος</a></span><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> (</span><i style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"><span lang="grc-Latn">nomos</span></i><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">, "custom" or "law"), hence "rules of the house(hold)".</span><sup style="line-height:1em;font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics#cite_note-etymology-1" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;white-space:nowrap;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">[1]</a></sup><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_economy" title="Political economy" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">Political economy</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> was the earlier name for the subject, but economists in the late 19th century suggested "economics" as a shorter term</span></div>
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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chr%C3%A9matistique" target="_blank">http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chr%C3%A9matistique</a></div><div><br></div><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">La </span><b style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">chrématistique</b><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> (de </span><i style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">chrèmatistikos</i><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">, qui concerne la </span><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestion" title="Gestion" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">gestion</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> </span><i style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">ou</i><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> la </span><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A9gociation" title="Négociation" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">négociation</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> des affaires et plus particulièrement les affaires d'argent ; </span><i style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">ta chrèmata</i><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">, les </span><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richesse" title="Richesse" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">richesses</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> ou </span><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denier_(monnaie)" title="Denier (monnaie)" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">deniers</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">) est une notion créée par </span><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristote" title="Aristote" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">Aristote</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> pour décrire la pratique visant à l'accumulation de moyens d'acquisition en général, plus particulièrement de celui qui accumule la </span><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monnaie" title="Monnaie" style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif;text-decoration:none;background-image:none" target="_blank">monnaie</a><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif"> pour elle-même et non en vue d'une fin autre que son plaisir personnel</span><sup style="padding-left:1px;vertical-align:text-top;line-height:1em;font-size:0.8em;white-space:nowrap;font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chr%C3%A9matistique#cite_note-1" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">1</a></sup><span style="line-height:19.200000762939453px;font-size:12.800000190734863px;font-family:sans-serif">. Aristote condamne cette attitude.</span>
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