I wish to briefly add a point of view in response to Apostolis question :<div><br></div><div>Beyond more distributed forms of tokenization - token creation, token exchange,... - , beyond the use of debt itself as a token,</div>
<div><br></div><div>I personally look forward to using the lowering of contextualization thresholds to facilitate the creation of new markets / information systems , new thresholds for granular and modular combinations of engagement,</div>
<div>which can be intentionally based, and in which reputation can potentially play a role as non-tradable ( social ) capital, whilst enabling other properties I identify as p2p, such as <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Equipotentiality">equipotentialit</a>y.</div>
<div><br></div><div>An attempt as such social contract and resource allocation information system described , for example, via this <a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByfmjEDwh_feV1hsX1o1OVFXTlE/preview">netention presentation</a> ( made by Seth )</div>
<div><br></div><div>and a early prototype�</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://er.netention.org/">http://er.netention.org/</a></div><div><br></div><div>note : it does not yet have the functionalities described above, but its architecture enables it through its further development, by importing for example various ontologies - rdf schema, etc - ... )�<br>
<div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>hi Apostolis,</div><div><br></div><div>probably not related but chris cook uses the concept of�<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Capital" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Capital</a> (more via�<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:OpenCapital" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:OpenCapital</a>)</div>
<div><br></div><div>my material on money is here�<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Money" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Money</a> and the material on licenses is here�<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Licensing" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Licensing</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>a list of open currency related concepts:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><ul style="line-height:19.196428298950195px;list-style-type:square;font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:Ubuntu,'Lucida Grande',Verdana,Arial,sans-serif;margin:0.3em 0px 0.5em 1.6em;padding:0px">
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Bank_Project" title="Open Bank Project" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Bank Project</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Book_Management" title="Open Book Management" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Book Management</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Capital" title="Open Capital" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Capital</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Currency" title="Open Currency" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Currency</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Data_Currencies" title="Open Data Currencies" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Data Currencies</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Fair_Credit_Standard" title="Open Fair Credit Standard" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Fair Credit Standard</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Hardware_Microcredit" title="Open Hardware Microcredit" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Hardware Microcredit</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Identity_Currencies" title="Open Identity Currencies" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Identity Currencies</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Money" title="Open Money" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Money</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Money_as_a_Commons" title="Open Money as a Commons" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Money as a Commons</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Money_Bibliography" title="Open Money Bibliography" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Money Bibliography</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Money_Blogtalk_Radio" title="Open Money Blogtalk Radio" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Money Blogtalk Radio</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Money_Manifesto" title="Open Money Manifesto" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Money Manifesto</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Money_Project" title="Open Money Project" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Money Project</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Patent_Alliance" title="Open Patent Alliance" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Patent Alliance</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Rules_Currencies" title="Open Rules Currencies" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Rules Currencies</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Bounties" title="Open Source Bounties" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Bounties</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Core_Banking" title="Open Source Core Banking" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Core Banking</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Credit_Rating_Agency" title="Open Source Credit Rating Agency" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Credit Rating Agency</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Currency" title="Open Source Currency" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Currency</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Finance_Meetup_Group" title="Open Source Finance Meetup Group" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Finance Meetup Group</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Financial_Transactions_Processing" title="Open Source Financial Transactions Processing" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Financial Transactions Processing</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Hardware_Bank" title="Open Source Hardware Bank" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Hardware Bank</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Hardware_Reserve_Bank" title="Open Source Hardware Reserve Bank" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Hardware Reserve Bank</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_I-Bills" title="Open Source I-Bills" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source I-Bills</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Ratings_Are_Needed_To_Break_the_Ratings_Agency_Oligopoly" title="Open Source Ratings Are Needed To Break the Ratings Agency Oligopoly" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Ratings Are Needed To Break the Ratings Agency Oligopoly</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Source_Voucher_Payment_Project" title="Open Source Voucher Payment Project" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Source Voucher Payment Project</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Transact" title="Open Transact" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Transact</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Transactions" title="Open Transactions" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Transactions</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Transport_Currencies" title="Open Transport Currencies" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Transport Currencies</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_UDC" title="Open UDC" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open UDC</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">
<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Wallet" title="Open Wallet" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Wallet</a></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">
<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open_Xchange" title="Open Xchange" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open Xchange</a></li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">
<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Open-Universal_Digital_Currency_Project" title="Open-Universal Digital Currency Project" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Open-Universal Digital Currency Project</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/OpenCoin" title="OpenCoin" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">OpenCoin</a></li>
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">
<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Opensocial_Virtual_Currency_API_Proposal" title="Opensocial Virtual Currency API Proposal" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-repeat:initial initial" target="_blank">Opensocial Virtual Currency API Proposal</a></li>
</ul></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Message: 1</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:32:08 +0200</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">From: Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis <</span><a href="mailto:xekoukou@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">xekoukou@gmail.com</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Subject: [P2P-F] open capital License?</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">To: P2P Foundation mailing list <</span><a href="mailto:p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Message-ID:</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">� � � � <</span><a href="mailto:CAOX4E5HhTj7sT-C1g0BTc-nkoEoyMYAJ%2Bq1%2Bj%2B9Vm_GPWdnWTA@mail.gmail.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif" target="_blank">CAOX4E5HhTj7sT-C1g0BTc-nkoEoyMYAJ+q1+j+9Vm_GPWdnWTA@mail.gmail.com</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">If we define the open paradigm as the one's right to access information or</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">resources, then what is the equivalent ,to GPL, license when it comes to</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">resources and especially capital(infrastructure)?</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">(When it comes to capital, open access can be a bit more restrictive, ie</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">allowing only the consumers and producers to have access )</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">The gpl license prohibits that subsequent releases of the code as</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">closed-source. This is a protection mechanism that needs to be used for</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">capital as well.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Here capital is not an idea, but a material thing that either exists now or</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">we have a promise for its existence in the future(money).</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Has anyone defined a license or a set of rules that need to apply to money</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">and the existent capital so as to be called open capital?</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">I think that we are lucking a good rule set when it comes to money.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">As I have said in this list many times before, inequalities can arise even</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">in an environment where all knowledge is open source and all resources are</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">peer governed</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">�simply because we have small differences in abilities �and thus a</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">difference in accumulated value(money) which if it reaches critical mass</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">could lead again to big inequalities(since money create money).</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">Sincerely yours,</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-size:12.571428298950195px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">� � �Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis</span><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all">
<div><br></div>-- <br>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a>� - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br><a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank"></a>Updates: <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><br>
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