Hi Thomas, and all<div><br></div><div>thanks for your reply.</div><div><br></div><div>in reply to your sentence</div><div><i>" <span class="Apple-style-span" style>I am seeing value in somehow building and sustaining a concurrently</span><br style>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style>shared database of human concerns. "</span></i></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">do you know this encyclopedia of world problems and human potential ? ( see pasted below )</font></div>
<div><a href="http://www.uia.be/sites/uia.be/db/db/x.php">http://www.uia.be/sites/uia.be/db/db/x.php</a></div><div><br></div><div>I wish we could collaborate with them as to translate the content and hyperlinks within their encyclopedia in a graph.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I am in touch with people working with the union of international associations, based in Brussels. It exists since more then a century, and it seems there has been difficulty for its management to make a step towards open collaborative internet potential as to further build on its data. Yet there is a page in relation to user feedback</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.uia.be/participative-encyclopedia-processing-specific-user-feedback">http://www.uia.be/participative-encyclopedia-processing-specific-user-feedback</a></div><div><br></div><div>and an organization collaboration page :</div>
<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.uia.be/faq/i-am-individualorganization-how-can-i-collaborate-encyclopedia">http://www.uia.be/faq/i-am-individualorganization-how-can-i-collaborate-encyclopedia</a></div><div><br></div>
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<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><br></b></font><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 6:07 PM, Thomas Loeber <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomloeber@gmail.com">tomloeber@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Looks like there are lots of unanswered questions and seems there is<br>
complexity extraordinaire. I think this idea of quantifying sympathy<br>
is open to interpretation. I think we are liable to gravitate towards<br>
that which is self-determined rather than predefined.<br>
<br>
I am seeing value in somehow building and sustaining a concurrently<br>
shared database of human concerns. That and not too invasive focus<br>
spells coherency. The incoherency of our current predicament is<br>
terminal. As far as I can tell, my theory suggests the least invasive<br>
analysis would be spread out with minimal possible impacts among the<br>
largest possible population. This suggests there may be an ideal<br>
grouping dynamic, a best survey system to at least make it possible<br>
that all share perspectives with relative integrity and impunity. It<br>
would have specific dynamics that facilitated preserving altruism,<br>
denigrating the inordinately opportunistic.<br>
<br>
It would have to be relatively simple.<br>
<br>
On Jan 8, 1:57 am, Dante-Gabryell Monson <<a href="mailto:dante.mon...@gmail.com">dante.mon...@gmail.com</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<div class="im">> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> From: Robin 2009 <<a href="mailto:robin2...@altruists.org">robin2...@altruists.org</a>><br>
> Date: Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:26 PM<br>
> Subject: [Altruistic-Economics] AE/SocEco<br>
</div><div class="im">> To: <a href="mailto:altruistic-econom...@lists.gifteconomy.org">altruistic-econom...@lists.gifteconomy.org</a><br>
> Cc: AlpT <<a href="mailto:alip...@gmail.com">alip...@gmail.com</a>><br>
><br>
> This is quick summary since I'm tired, and probably starting (command<br>
> economy) work tomorrow, to Andrea whom I have invited to join the AE list,<br>
> and whom I am CC'ing for now.<br>
><br>
</div>> One key point is that AE is *deliberately non-prescriptive* since it is<br>
<div><div class="h5">> designed to support multiple top layers (people can use this data how they<br>
> like, and may wish to improve on the default cheap and cheerful upper<br>
> layer). So it defines a meaning for the data, rather than who it should be<br>
> used. Compare for example, now HTML assigns a meaning to the link<br>
> sturucture of <a href="..."> which was defined a long time before Google<br>
> (or others) chose to interpret such links through the pagerank algorithm.<br>
> Specifically AE aims to define two sorts of data on top of the F2F network:<br>
> 1) How people feel about particular things that happened (c.f. AE10)<br>
> 2) People's (multi-dimensional) exchange rates, which includes their<br>
> sympathy, since this is a particular case (e.g. preparedness to swap my<br>
> time for your time, c.f. slide 6, AE9)<br>
><br>
> One likely use of sympathy is to direct energy to those whom people care<br>
> for the most, other things being equal. I'm not quite sure what you mean by<br>
> "AE assumes that there are gains and losses". AE is a system of<br>
> self-expression, and as such it assumes that people will wish to report +/-<br>
> things about the experiences they have. Is this what you're saying?<br>
><br>
> You wonder how "people more altruistic are rewarded". The system tracks<br>
> evaluations of what others say about you, so if you have positive<br>
> evaluations due to past altruism, strangers can detect this and may be more<br>
> favourably inclined to help you. I am presuming that most people will<br>
> choose to be generous to those who have been generous to others<br>
> (particularly to them and those that they have sympathy for), though this<br>
> is not forced, and other dynamics will likely present in other<br>
> circumstances.<br>
><br>
> There is no checking per se of the self-reported data (by design, since<br>
> it's decentralised system). It is expected that people will make mistakes<br>
> or deliberately attempt fraud. Hence the need for circumspection in how to<br>
</div></div>> interpret this data (a tension explored inhttp://<a href="http://www.altruists.org/ideas/economics/altruistic/measuring_value/s.." target="_blank">www.altruists.org/ideas/economics/altruistic/measuring_value/s..</a>.)<br>
<div class="im">> - which should probably be calibrated. See also AE12, slide 14 for a<br>
> loose end which I never tied up.<br>
><br>
> I'm pleased that you see such commonality in our approaches. The key<br>
> elements of AE are:<br>
> 1) Decentralised, self-evaluation of interactions<br>
> 2) Self-assigned, unlimited # currencies available<br>
> 3) The exchange rate structure, including<br>
> a) sympathy<br>
> b) resource processing<br>
><br>
> I'm sorry not to have looked further at your work, and will do so as soon<br>
> as I have moved computers, now that I am safely back in Bangladesh.<br>
><br>
> Robin<br>
><br>
</div>> P.S. My CCC talk on Plutocracy went well, and is athttp://<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51qTb2O6eYM" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/watch?v=51qTb2O6eYM</a><br>
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