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<DIV style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; LINE-HEIGHT: 0; MARGIN: 5px 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; HEIGHT: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 0px; BORDER-TOP: #ccc 1px solid; BORDER-RIGHT: #ccc 1px solid; PADDING-TOP: 0px" class=hr contentEditable=false readonly="true"></DIV><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Peter Mazsa <peter.mazsa@theunitedpersons.org><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> dharao4@yahoo.co.uk; psidoc@gmail.com <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> P2P Foundation mailing list <p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org> <BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, 29 December 2011, 22:19<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [P2P-F] Do you believe in free will??<BR></FONT><BR>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 5:34 AM, robert searle <<A href="mailto:dharao4@yahoo.co.uk"
ymailto="mailto:dharao4@yahoo.co.uk">dharao4@yahoo.co.uk</A>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> The materialist Christopher Hitchins who died very recently was asked the<BR>>> following question (ref source Richard Dawkins/Radio Four).<BR>>><BR>>> Do you believe in free will?<BR>>><BR>>> Yes, I have no choice!<BR>>><BR>>> The following is a somewhat long bio on CH<BR>>><BR>>> <A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens" target=_blank>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens</A><BR><BR>On 29 December 2011 19:58, Paul Hughes <<A href="mailto:psidoc@gmail.com" ymailto="mailto:psidoc@gmail.com">psidoc@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR>> I have argued that the answer is ultimately yes:<BR>><BR>> <A href="http://www.realitysandwich.com/super_free_will" target=_blank>http://www.realitysandwich.com/super_free_will</A><BR><BR>FYI: The Strong Free Will Theorem<BR><BR>"[...]
our theorem asserts that if experimenters have a certain<BR>freedom, then particles have exactly the same kind of freedom. Indeed,<BR>it is natural to suppose that this latter freedom is the ultimate<BR>explanation of our own.<BR>[...] It may well be true that classically stochastic processes such<BR>as tossing a (true) coin do not help in explaining free will, but<BR>[...] adding randomness also does not explain the quantum mechanical<BR>effects described in our theorem. It is precisely the “semi-free”<BR>nature of twinned particles, and more generally of entanglement, that<BR>shows that something very different from classical stochasticism is at<BR>play here.<BR>Although the FWT [Free Will Theorem] suggests to us that determinism<BR>is not a viable option, it nevertheless enables us to agree with<BR>Einstein that “God does not play dice with the Universe.” In the<BR>present state of knowledge, it is certainly beyond our capabilities
to<BR>understand the connection between the free decisions of particles and<BR>humans, but the free will of neither of these is accounted for by mere<BR>randomness.<BR>[...] determinism may formally be shown to be consistent, there is no<BR>longer any evidence that supports it, in view of the fact that<BR>classical physics has been superseded by quantum mechanics, a<BR>non-deterministic theory. The import of the free will theorem is that<BR>it is not only current quantum theory, but the world itself that is<BR>non-deterministic, so that no future theory can return us to a<BR>clockwork universe."<BR><BR><A href="http://www.ams.org/notices/200902/rtx090200226p.pdf" target=_blank>http://www.ams.org/notices/200902/rtx090200226p.pdf</A><BR><BR>Cf. <A href="http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/35391/title/Math_Trek__Do_subatomic_particles_have_free_will"
target=_blank>http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/35391/title/Math_Trek__Do_subatomic_particles_have_free_will</A><BR>P.<BR><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></div></body></html>