<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 10:16 PM, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:xekoukou@gmail.com">xekoukou@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Yes patrick that is what i mean. I also think that this is the only natural - common sense thing to do. But i would like to hear what the others say because i may be wrong.<div><br></div><div>I also agree with Dante about limiting private accumulation but I think that if we do what patrick and i say, we will nullify the previous wealth from affecting the future creation and distribution of wealth. Think of this wealth like a ferrari. Let them have this wealth. the ferrari cant make more ferrari s and increase inequality in opportunity.</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks - ok , let the super rich keep their Ferrari. ( or Yacht , or Villa )</div><div>What if we use the example of accumulated property of land and housing ?</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><br></div><div>(I am also in the direction of automating the whole process. People will put what they want and how much they like to work at a specific job, and the programm will automatically designate what job is the best for each person and the prices and amount of products that will be created. Engineers will also be able to put new production methods and the new graph will be instantly computed plus the price that people would be willing to pay for the new production method.)</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>So you would still keep a market pricing approach ?</div><div><br></div><div>This leads me to another p2pf page</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Relational_Model_Typology_-_Fiske">http://p2pfoundation.net/Relational_Model_Typology_-_Fiske</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>as for the software,</div><div>I know other projects are in development, such as</div><div><a href="http://www.automenta.com/netention">http://www.automenta.com/netention</a></div><div>�</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><br></div><div>There is one problem though.</div><div><br></div><div>Since profit will not exist, �it will just flow back to the consumers and producers, we will have a problem of competition with the rest of the world in which workers and consumers are forced to pay profit. </div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>The way I understand it through these conversations,</div><div>is that there is interest in setting up what, to me, resembles very much consumer and worker cooperatives ?</div><div><br></div>
<div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_cooperative">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_cooperative</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worker_cooperative</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>�</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>If people decide not to accumulate wealth to increase productivity, they will unfortunately revert back to the system that creates inequality since in the rest of the world we are forced to increase productivity(through the profit maximization aim of enterprises).�<br>
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