I agree, <br><br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:54 PM, Patrick Anderson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agnucius@gmail.com">agnucius@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Organizations that care about User Freedom, such as the Free Software<br>
Foundation, the Free Culture Forum, Libre Planet, and many others I<br>
forget at the moment do not seem to admit the material basis of our<br>
struggle, for if they did, they would be attempting to discover how to<br>
share the hardware needed to *host* that production.<br>
<br>
Sharing hardware is the next crucial step in our emancipation, but is<br>
avoided in favor of individual ownership (such as plug-computing and<br>
wireless mesh networks) while the larger issues of the physical<br>
resources such as the network and agriculture being owned by<br>
profit-seeking entities remains untouched.<br>
<br>
Richard Stallman seems to imply there is no way to build cloud<br>
computing that respects user freedom. �This is a lack of vision or an<br>
avoidance of the admittedly complex problems that occur when users<br>
attempt to share hardware.<br>
<br>
Sharing hardware is difficult, and not yet fully understood. �That is<br>
why we must put effort into designing a system of governance which we<br>
can then apply to physical resources that we buy and co-own in small<br>
groups for our own, mutual benefit. �Until we do this, we will forever<br>
beg those that have ownership while wondering why they won't do the<br>
right thing.<br>
<br>
If these groups were to admit and attempt to solve these issues, they<br>
would buy hardware to begin hosting the software that already exists<br>
needed to replace Gmail, Yahoo, Facebook, etc.<br>
<br>
Until we do this, we are sitting-ducks in denial of the The Material<br>
Basis of Immaterial Production.<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
Patrick Anderson<br>
<a href="http://ImputedProduction.BlogSpot.com" target="_blank">http://ImputedProduction.BlogSpot.com</a><br>
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