<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Nikolay Georgiev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nikolay.h.georgiev@googlemail.com">nikolay.h.georgiev@googlemail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Thank you Michel,<br>
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yes, it is okay to share it in the list. Few more questions:<div class="im"><br>
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On 11/06/2011 12:17 AM, Michel Bauwens wrote:
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is it okay to share this with our list?<br>
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I can't really recommend any technical process, and I copy Sam
rose for that, as for the governance<br>
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1) the community is the core and allowed permissionless
contributions ; selection for excellence is done by accepted
maintainers who have gained the confidence of the community and of
each other<br>
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2) OSE-E is the formal entity responsible for maintaining the
infrastructure of cooperation, but is not in command and control
of the production process; it should be democratically managed<br>
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Are there some examples where I can see this working? Or to read how
it could be implemented.</div></blockquote><div><br><br>see: <a href="http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Floss-Foundations">http://delicious.com/mbauwens/Floss-Foundations</a> ; <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/FLOSS_Foundations">http://p2pfoundation.net/FLOSS_Foundations</a> ; <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/FLOSS_-_Governance">http://p2pfoundation.net/FLOSS_-_Governance</a>� (more generally: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Peergovernance</a>)<br>
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3) Use the peer production license to allow free usage by other
commons-friendly market entities, but make other for-profits pay
(define set of minimum conditions)<br>
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Sounds good! Any examples how to do it?</div></blockquote><div><br>Dmytry is the person to ask; at the p2p coop, we use it only 'symbolically' so far. The reason to use this license is to create an interlocking counter-economy of mutual support. <br>
<br>See: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Production_License">http://p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Production_License</a><br></div><div><br>�</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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4) try to create your own cooperative entity for such activities,
and create some kind of alliance of entities using the commons,
which integrates various stakeholders<br>
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How could this be done? Where can I find more info?<br></div></blockquote><div><br>the p2p coop has some documentation, which� Franco Iacomella can share with you.<br><br>perhaps we can organize a google hangout, for public consumption, on this topic, with me, Sam rose, you, and 2-3 other people? Also check out Janelle Orsi of the sustainable law center<br>
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Thank you very much! Great advices!<br><font color="#888888">
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5) develop an ethical funding strategy, based on crowdfunding;
look into the open hardware central bank, Goteo<br>
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hope that gives some ideas,<br>
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Michel<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Nikolay
Georgiev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nikolay.h.georgiev@googlemail.com" target="_blank">nikolay.h.georgiev@googlemail.com</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Hi Michel,<br>
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OSE Europe is growing! What we are doing is something very
similar and very different than Factor E Farm.<br>
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We want to create an open, dynamic, self-organizing network of
people, communities, organizations, and open enterprises
working towards an open society.<br>
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Last week we saved Solar Fire, the solar concentrator, which
Marcin couldn't open source few months ago, and showed that We
Together can achieve more than one leader. <a href="http://oseeurope.org/" target="_blank">http://oseeurope.org/</a><br>
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Can you give me some advices how to design this Open Process?<br>
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I started adding notes on how to develop Open Governance: <a href="http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Europe/Open_Governance" target="_blank">http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/OSE_Europe/Open_Governance</a><br>
but I still have to learn more.<br>
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Thank you!<br>
<br>
Nikolay<br>
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