thanks Bob!<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Bob Frankston <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Bob19-0501@bobf.frankston.com">Bob19-0501@bobf.frankston.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Thanks for forwarding the pointer. You may also be interested in <a href="http://rmf.vc/IPPvD" target="_blank">http://rmf.vc/IPPvD</a> -- Purpose vs. Discovery � which is another departure from conventional thinking about network capacity and purpose.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><u></u>�<u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;"> <a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michel Bauwens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 30, 2011 22:44<br><b>To:</b> p2p-foundation<br><b>Cc:</b> Sepp Hasslberger<br><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: Future Internet is not a net<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div></div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal">
<u></u>�<u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">Dea<b>r</b> Sepp,<br><br>the ideas of Bob F<b>rankston, on 'abolishing pipes', make a lot of sense, I wonder if you could present them to our readers?<br>
<br>Michel</b><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b>Bob Frankston</b> <<a href="mailto:Bob19-0501@bobf.frankston.com" target="_blank">Bob19-0501@bobf.frankston.com</a>><br>
Date: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:00 AM<br>Subject: Future Internet is not a net<br>To: Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:Michelsub2004@gmail.com" target="_blank">Michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>><br><br><u></u><u></u></p><div>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">It was good talking to you at ContactCon.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">�<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I happened across your old post asking for comments on future of the Internet. <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">�<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I go into these issues in my various writings but it may be too radical for your audience since I don�t accept the idea of a network as anything more than an emergent property. Instead I start with relationships and factor out exchanging bits as a plumbing issue.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">�<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">You might be interested in <a href="http://rmf.vc/ThinkingOutsideThePipe" target="_blank">http://rmf.vc/ThinkingOutsideThePipe</a> as well as the longer essays I point to. In <a href="http://rmf.vc/AmbientConnectivity" target="_blank">http://rmf.vc/AmbientConnectivity</a> I provide a framing focused on enabling applications rather than the networking itself.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">�<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The limitations of the Internet are solved not by engineering a solution to each one but by a dynamic process. I first started writing about that in 1997 when I wrote a chapter about the limits of Moore�s law � <a href="http://rmf.vc/BeyondLimits" target="_blank">http://rmf.vc/BeyondLimits</a>.<u></u><u></u></p>
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