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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks for forwarding the pointer. You may also be interested in <a href="http://rmf.vc/IPPvD">http://rmf.vc/IPPvD</a> -- Purpose vs. Discovery � which is another departure from conventional thinking about network capacity and purpose.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> michelsub2004@gmail.com [mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michel Bauwens<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 30, 2011 22:44<br><b>To:</b> p2p-foundation<br><b>Cc:</b> Sepp Hasslberger<br><b>Subject:</b> Fwd: Future Internet is not a net<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dea<b>r</b> Sepp,<br><br>the ideas of Bob F<b>rankston, on 'abolishing pipes', make a lot of sense, I wonder if you could present them to our readers?<br><br>Michel</b><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b>Bob Frankston</b> <<a href="mailto:Bob19-0501@bobf.frankston.com">Bob19-0501@bobf.frankston.com</a>><br>Date: Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:00 AM<br>Subject: Future Internet is not a net<br>To: Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:Michelsub2004@gmail.com">Michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It was good talking to you at ContactCon.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I happened across your old post asking for comments on future of the Internet. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I go into these issues in my various writings but it may be too radical for your audience since I don�t accept the idea of a network as anything more than an emergent property. Instead I start with relationships and factor out exchanging bits as a plumbing issue.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>You might be interested in <a href="http://rmf.vc/ThinkingOutsideThePipe" target="_blank">http://rmf.vc/ThinkingOutsideThePipe</a> as well as the longer essays I point to. In <a href="http://rmf.vc/AmbientConnectivity" target="_blank">http://rmf.vc/AmbientConnectivity</a> I provide a framing focused on enabling applications rather than the networking itself.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The limitations of the Internet are solved not by engineering a solution to each one but by a dynamic process. I first started writing about that in 1997 when I wrote a chapter about the limits of Moore�s law � <a href="http://rmf.vc/BeyondLimits" target="_blank">http://rmf.vc/BeyondLimits</a>.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>P2P Foundation: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net</a> - <a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">http://blog.p2pfoundation.net</a> <br><br>Connect: <a href="http://p2pfoundation.ning.com" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.ning.com</a>; Discuss: <a href="http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation" target="_blank">http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>Updates: <a href="http://del.icio.us/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://del.icio.us/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://twitter.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mbauwens</a>; <a href="http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>