What bugs me is that contemporary political arguments are never won through a scinetific process. They are imposed by creating a contemporary mythology and let me say that most of the peoples political decisions are based on these myths. I cant find any difference in methodology with that of the ancient greeks who made sacrifices so that they have good wind on their sales, or with astrology or with creationism.<div>
<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/10/19 Kevin Carson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:free.market.anticapitalist@gmail.com">free.market.anticapitalist@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Sandwichman <<a href="mailto:lumpoflabor@gmail.com">lumpoflabor@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> What an incredibly odd argument to encounter on a P2P list concerned with<br>
> reclaiming the commons!<br>
<br>
</div><div class="im">> To say that the aboriginal people of the Western Hemisphere didn't "own" the<br>
> land is as relevant as saying they didn't read English or worship Jesus<br>
> Christ as their savior. Europeans stole the land by imposing their own<br>
> peculiar property regime, along with the metaphysics that viewed such<br>
> peculiarity as both natural and universal.<br>
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</div>I agree.<br>
<br>
First of all, the "some" Indians who were nomads were pretty much<br>
those centered on the Great Plains. �That leaves out all those who<br>
practiced some form of sedentary horticulture or field cropping, like<br>
the Five Civilized Tribes (pretty much anything south of the Ohio or<br>
east of the Mississippi), the corn growers of the Southwest, the lodge<br>
peoples of the Northeast and Eastern seaboard (who friggin' taught the<br>
English colonists about native crops, fer chrissakes), the potlatch<br>
peoples of the Pacific NW.... �It's a bit like "Other than that, Mrs.<br>
Lincoln, how was the play?"<br>
<br>
And second, the idea that any form of ownership other than allodial,<br>
fee-simple commodity ownership on a one-family-per-parcel basis is<br>
invalid is nonsense. �The claim that common ownnership of hunting<br>
grounds is null and void, and that expropriation is fair game because<br>
those who covet them can put them to more efficient use, smacks of the<br>
"best and highest use" arguments for eminent domain.<br>
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Kevin Carson<br>
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Sincerely yours, </pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"> Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis</pre></span><br>
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