Agreed. These declarations don't seem as though they'll become a rallying point. Too much room to generate internal discontent, not to mention ridicule by the main stream press. It's a list of bad things we all agree with, but offers no understanding re how we evolved to let this stuff happen. We need to formulate another approach & format with greater understanding.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:47 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ideasinc@ee.net">ideasinc@ee.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Natalie,<br>
� � � �Wilhelm Reich wrote an excellent book, that generally is ignored. The<br>
title is the "Mass Psychology of Fascism." it is based upon his direct<br>
experience of the rise of Nazi fascism in Germany and of his direct<br>
contact with Stalinist communists which he also describes as a form of<br>
fascism. Then there are the various degrees of totalitarianism. Both are<br>
very similar by the enforced conformity to authority. "Libertarianism" as<br>
a concept has also been used to provide an acceptable appearance for other<br>
forms of authoritarianism, most notably the siege against small "d"<br>
democracy and the role of governance to protect and preserve the commons<br>
in its many forms. The Libertarian Party in the US has been gathering<br>
point for nominal conservatives who operate to diminish the commons in<br>
multiple contexts. Sticking to the outcomes and objectives as would be<br>
expected in a democratic process does seem like a better way to define and<br>
sustain an open process. Yes, there is a substantial potential problems<br>
when appearance and labels are accepted as either adequate or applicable.<br>
In short you, imo, are quite correct in being suspicious of labeling as<br>
basis for political correctness.<br>
<br>
Tadit<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 12:19:19 -0400, Natalie Golovin <<a href="mailto:10natalie@cox.net">10natalie@cox.net</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Declaration will cause movement to lose a lot of support. You may say<br>
> you don�t care about Libertarians anyway-not very democratic attitude.<br>
> When the Left gets going it�s more frightening than the Corporatocracy<br>
><br>
> From: Michel Bauwens<br>
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:14 AM<br>
> To: p2p-foundation<br>
> Cc: Amaia Arcos<br>
> Subject: [P2P-F] Declaration_of_the_Occupation_of_New_York_City<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Declaration_of_the_Occupation_of_New_York_City" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Declaration_of_the_Occupation_of_New_York_City</a><br>
><br>
> Dear Amaia, can you publish this on our blog?<br>
><br>
> Michel<br>
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