hi Tadit,<br><br>perhaps my problem is an issue of style, but whereas the reviewer of AMI believes Ellen has 'good intentions' but is wrong, you imply a link between bank cartel funding and disinformation campaigns and her work ... strong, and especially specific ad hominem claims would require strong evidence ...<br>
<br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:45 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ideasinc@ee.net">ideasinc@ee.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href="http://economics.arawakcity.org/node/357" target="_blank">http://economics.arawakcity.org/node/357</a> Perter North's Money and<br>
Liberation<br>
<a href="http://economics.arawakcity.org/node/674" target="_blank">http://economics.arawakcity.org/node/674</a> Understanding Modern Money part<br>
one Randal Wray<br>
<a href="http://economics.arawakcity.org/node/675" target="_blank">http://economics.arawakcity.org/node/675</a> Understanding Modern Money part<br>
two Randall Wray<br>
<a href="http://www.economics.arawakcity.org/node/437" target="_blank">http://www.economics.arawakcity.org/node/437</a> Understanding Modern Money<br>
this a shorter version<br>
<a href="http://www.economics.arawakcity.org/node/344" target="_blank">http://www.economics.arawakcity.org/node/344</a> On Thomas Greco's Libertarian<br>
Economics<br>
<a href="http://www.economics.arawakcity.org/node/350" target="_blank">http://www.economics.arawakcity.org/node/350</a> on J.W. Smith's �Money A<br>
Mirror Image of The Economy<br>
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<a href="http://www.economics.arawakcity.org/node/320" target="_blank">http://www.economics.arawakcity.org/node/320</a> this is a review by Dick<br>
Distlehorst's associated with the AMI of Lietaer's The Future of Money<br>
Which I agree with, and it is also outside of the<br>
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�here is a very very short independent review of the CRX posted at the<br>
Irish Smart Taxes website<br>
<a href="http://smarttaxes.org/2011/04/13/mmt-and-community-currency/" target="_blank">http://smarttaxes.org/2011/04/13/mmt-and-community-currency/</a><br>
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my review of Money As Debt was effectively submerged into Jamie Walton's<br>
review if you want to confirm this here is Stephen Zarlenga's email<br>
"Stephen Zarlenga" <<a href="mailto:ami@taconic.net">ami@taconic.net</a>> I expect that he is quite busy right<br>
now preparing for AMI's annual conference in Chicago �A paraphrase from<br>
Stephan identifies Brown as the biggest single obstacle to monetary<br>
reform. I believe that it is a bit of an overstatement, relative to the<br>
impediment of the neo-classical default.<br>
<br>
on the issue of the characteristics of an MMT cult, I believe that you<br>
will in time perhaps re-allocate that tag. The basic issue comes down to<br>
fact and outcomes versus fictions and persuasive rhetoric rather than an<br>
informed process. It also becomes an issue of an open discourse favoring<br>
constructive alternatives. There is no doubt that we need an alternative<br>
monetary model, that much is easy. Identifying which model is more<br>
difficult particularly given the general level of econo-phobia. I expect<br>
that the MMT people will find the interpretation of MMT as a cult to be<br>
not unexpected, and patently wrong. As a quick example persisting in the<br>
support of an economic model even though it continues to devastate our<br>
commons at all levels ends up being a variety of Theo-classical economics<br>
to use William Black's (also at UMKC) turn of the phrase. Black's<br>
experience with high levels of fraud in the banking industry, basically<br>
substantiates the massive problems with neo-classical economics.<br>
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As I've also made clear I also don't agree with Stephen Z. on all points,<br>
and I just can't seem to persuade him that the MMT folk are not at all<br>
opposed to monetary reform, just on how we can accomplish that agenda.<br>
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for now, Tadit<br>
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:07:21 -0400, Michel Bauwens<br>
<<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dear Tadit,<br>
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> would you have a list of your monetary book reviews?<br>
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> Michel<br>
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> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 7:12 PM, <<a href="mailto:ideasinc@ee.net">ideasinc@ee.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> I am very familiar with the AMI's proposal. Relative to the MMT approach<br>
>> the AMI proposal is a half measure, and it relies upon the legislative<br>
>> process and celebrity politics. I suggested to Stephen Z. at the AMI's<br>
>> first annual conference the utility of a p2p like process to demonstrate<br>
>> what a sovereign currency would operate(hence the CRX as a learning<br>
>> process). He chose to structure local chapters as advocacy groups solely<br>
>> toward national level legislation for reform. The MMT folks believe that<br>
>> by the use of reserve accounting as used by the central banks and that<br>
>> Pres. R. Nixon took the US economy off of the gold standard in 1971 by<br>
>> executive order, federal level legislation is not required for monetary<br>
>> reform. I have labored to bring the two perspectives together, and<br>
>> Stephen<br>
>> seems to regard the MMT people as an opposition to his agenda. I have<br>
>> done<br>
>> several reviews of pop-level books on monetary economics for the AMI and<br>
>> have been invited to speak several times by Stephen Z. and continue to<br>
>> have conversations with him during the year. I believe that the Kucinich<br>
>> legislation is a worthy effort and doomed at the gate due to massive<br>
>> economic illiteracy, particularly at the legislative level. My approach<br>
>> is<br>
>> more on the lines of if the people will lead, the politicians will<br>
>> follow.<br>
>><br>
>> as we go, Tadit<br>
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>> On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:14:38 -0400, robert searle <<a href="mailto:dharao4@yahoo.co.uk">dharao4@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> > �The following maybe of interest from the American Monetary Institute<br>
>> > headed by Stephen Zarlenga. The present page of the link reveals that<br>
>> > Senator Kucinich has been at it again to try, and have Congress take<br>
>> the<br>
>> > ideas of AMI seriously. A copy of the Bill can be found onsite...<br>
>> > �<a href="http://www.monetary.org/" target="_blank">http://www.monetary.org/</a><br>
>> > � RS><br>
>><br>
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