Thanks Michel !<div><br></div><div>pasted it here :</div><div><div><br><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Talk:Asymmetric_Competition">http://p2pfoundation.net/Talk:Asymmetric_Competition</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>( further edits / suggestions welcomed )<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I do talk about it, but don&#39;t have a specific reference in the wik (<a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Asymmetric_Competition" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Asymmetric_Competition</a>)<br>
<br>You could always create an entry and add the [[Category:Economics]] or [[Category:Cooperation]], both existing sections,<br>
<br>we do have an extensive section on open business models, <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Business_Models" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Business_Models</a><br><font color="#888888"><br>
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On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dante.monson@gmail.com" target="_blank">dante.monson@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">

I m trying to find out on the p2pf wiki about existing pages on &quot;out-cooperation&quot;.<div><br></div><div>Michel, I remember, but can not find its reference, that you may have talked in the past about something like &quot; open source collaboration business models having a competitive advantage on closed proprietary business models , hence out-cooperating them&quot; ?</div>


<div><br></div><div>Possibly the links below could be added to a talk page and one could attempt to understand how, possibly mathematically, collaboration may influence on such equilibrium hypothesis ?<div><div></div><div>

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On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex">


thanks dante,<br><br>Michel<div><div></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dante.monson@gmail.com" target="_blank">dante.monson@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><span style="font-size:13px;line-height:19px;font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium#History" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nash_equilibrium#History</a></span><div>






<font face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19px"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="sans-serif"><span style="line-height:19px"><span style="font-size:13px">A version of the Nash equilibrium concept was first used by�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Augustin_Cournot" title="Antoine Augustin Cournot" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(6, 69, 173)" target="_blank">Antoine Augustin Cournot</a>�in his theory of oligopoly (1838). In Cournot&#39;s theory, firms choose how much output to produce to maximize their own profit. However, the best output for one firm depends on the outputs of others. A�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cournot_equilibrium" title="Cournot equilibrium" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(6, 69, 173)" target="_blank">Cournot equilibrium</a>�occurs when each firm&#39;s output maximizes its profits given the output of the other firms, which is a�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pure_strategy" title="Pure strategy" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(6, 69, 173)" target="_blank">pure strategy</a>�Nash Equilibrium.</span><br>






</span></font><div></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;line-height:19px;font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;line-height:19px;font-family:sans-serif"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cournot_equilibrium" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cournot_equilibrium</a></span></div>




<div><br></div></div><div><span style="font-size:13px;line-height:19px;font-family:sans-serif"><p style="margin:0.4em 0px 0.5em;line-height:1.5em">
�It has the following features:</p><ul style="line-height:1.5em;list-style-type:square;margin:0.3em 0px 0.5em 1.6em;padding:0px">
<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">There is more than one firm and all firms produce a�<a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Homogeneous" title="wiktionary:Homogeneous" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51, 102, 187);padding:0px" target="_blank">homogeneous</a>�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_%28business%29" title="Product (business)" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(6, 69, 173)" target="_blank">product</a>, i.e. there is no�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Product_differentiation" title="Product differentiation" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(6, 69, 173)" target="_blank">product differentiation</a>;</li>




<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Firms do not cooperate, i.e. there is no�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collusion" title="Collusion" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(6, 69, 173)" target="_blank">collusion</a>;</li>




<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Firms have�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_power" title="Market power" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(6, 69, 173)" target="_blank">market power</a>, i.e. each firm&#39;s output decision affects the good&#39;s price;</li>




<li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">The number of firms is fixed;</li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">Firms compete in quantities, and choose quantities simultaneously;</li><li style="margin-bottom:0.1em">The firms are economically rational and�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_theory" title="Game theory" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(6, 69, 173)" target="_blank">act strategically</a>, usually seeking to maximize profit given their competitors&#39; decisions.</li>




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