yes, it&#39;s the famous one percent rule, but let&#39;s face, running just one org is hard ... imagine just 50 of us running 1700 ..... so the real figure is at least 1700 times &#39;x&#39;, with x depending on the size of the organisation ...<br>
<br>now of course, the real secret is that are really really running all those x&#39;s (shssss don&#39;t tell anyone)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Jon Husband <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jon.husband@gmail.com">jon.husband@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Always the way, no ?<div><br></div><div>Until things get to breaking points (which sometimes I think we should have seen a while ago, but the structures of our western societies are quite tenacious indeed ;-)</div>
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</div><div><br></div><div>Jon<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Phoebe Moore <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pvm.doc@gmail.com" target="_blank">pvm.doc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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Even if its true, you can think of these 50 guys as a kind of steering group. Running a &#39;Cooperative&#39; myself, I can tell you that it&#39;s only the same 6 people who really ever do anything. It&#39;s the way things go, I think.<br>


<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div></div><div>On 31 July 2011 08:24, Michel Bauwens <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:michel@p2pfoundation.net" target="_blank">michel@p2pfoundation.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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he&#39;s always been of the cynical type, I interviewed him for technocalyps, but he does mean well even that one is certainly sarcastic ... but the answer is of course a very clear no ... there is indeed a vast conspiracy out there ..<br>



<br>would be nice to find a volunteer to do a social network analysis on it ...<br><br>Michel<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 2:02 AM, Jon Husband <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jon.husband@gmail.com" target="_blank">jon.husband@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">It would be nice to assume Bruce Sterling meant well .. ;-)<div><br></div><div><span style="font-family: &#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Arial,Helvetica,&#39;Liberation Sans&#39;,FreeSans,sans-serif; font-size: 12.5px; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); line-height: 22px;"><div style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; display: block; line-height: 15px;">




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