Dear colleagues,<br><br>With the help of David Bollier and subscribers to the Commoning and P2P-Foundation email lists, we are compiling a directory of <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons-Oriented_Economists">http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons-Oriented_Economists</a><br>
<br>Wolfgang Hoechsele suggested your names and institutions, as experts likely to be able to suggest names to add to our directory,<br><br>Many thanks for considering your assistance,<br><br>Michel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Silke Helfrich</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Silke.Helfrich@gmx.de">Silke.Helfrich@gmx.de</a>></span><br>Date: Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:23 PM<br>
Subject: [Commoning] Economists or Ecommonists?<br>To: Commoning <<a href="mailto:commoning@lists.wissensallmende.de">commoning@lists.wissensallmende.de</a>><br><br><br>Dear all,<br>
<br>
I was recently inspired by a proposal from a formally trained<br>
"economist", Friederike Habermann. She would certainly love to be called<br>
an ecommonist, rather than an economist.<br>
Actually she frames the world we are all struggling for as Ecommony.<br>
(we'll include the proposal in our next monography, many of you are<br>
invited to contribute to ...)<br>
<br>
So, Friederike Habermann (Phd), Germany is my candidate for the list.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
Silke<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, 2011-04-19 at 22:59 +0200, Herv� Le Crosnier wrote:<br>
><br>
> � � � Hello all,<br>
><br>
> � � � I want to follow on what Wolfgang say about the very<br>
> � � � definition of "an economist". It's not that easy,<br>
> � � � because what we're talking about when considering the<br>
> � � � economic aspects of the commons is mainly "political economy",<br>
> � � � which is not considered as a typical "economics".<br>
> � � � So some sociologists, some political scientists, some<br>
> � � � activists, some ecologists have a lot to say to the<br>
> � � � economy of the commons. Mostly when we look at all potential<br>
> � � � measures for economy. The national gross product, or the<br>
> � � � market share are not suitable measures for the commons.<br>
> � � � And more to say within the information and immaterials<br>
> � � � commons. Is Yocha� Benkler, mainly considered as a law<br>
> � � � professor an economist ? Yes he give us truly significant<br>
> � � � insights to the economical side of commons productions,<br>
> � � � but he does this with all his knowledge of law...<br>
><br>
> � � � When I first encounter the David and Michel list, I<br>
> � � � don't know if I can add people as Philippe Aigrain,<br>
> � � � not an economist, but surely a political economist, as<br>
> � � � far as he worked for the European Commission, even though as<br>
> � � � a computer scientist by training...<br>
><br>
> � � � As far as people are trying to have new indicators for<br>
> � � � economy, and well being, and human development, for<br>
> � � � political evaluation, or to assist decision in the political<br>
> � � � arena, for it not to follow only markets, or more<br>
> � � � precisely "financial exchange markets"... we the commoners<br>
> � � � must go right on this open way to evaluate the benefit<br>
> � � � of the commons way. So sociologists, political scientists,<br>
> � � � philosophers, and activists in their plain intellectual<br>
> � � � commitment, can be into such a list.<br>
><br>
> � � � May be we have to change the disciplinary distinctions,<br>
> � � � and promote focus based lists ? But it is mainly the<br>
> � � � real good work the P2P Foundation is doing, isn't it ?<br>
><br>
> � � � Yours,<br>
><br>
> Herv� Le Crosnier<br>
><br>
> Le 19/04/2011 22:43, Wolfgang Hoeschele a �crit :<br>
> > Dear Michel,<br>
> > On my entry on this list, I think you should point out that I'm not an<br>
> > economist (if Elinor Ostrom is not en economist, having received the<br>
> > Nobel Prize in economics, I'm most definitely not, since I'm trained as<br>
> > a geographer!). Katherine Gibson is also a geographer.<br>
> > The E.F. Schumacher Foundation _has been renamed_ as the New Economics<br>
> > Institute - i.e., those two are one and the same thing.<br>
> ><br>
> > The Green Economics Institute in England<br>
> > (<a href="http://www.greeneconomics.org.uk/" target="_blank">http://www.greeneconomics.org.uk/</a>) should also be listed, while<br>
> > different people within that institute follow different approaches, they<br>
> > are very much interested in social and environmental justice. The<br>
> > directors of the institute are Miriam Kennet (contact at Miriam Kennet<br>
> > <<a href="mailto:greeneconomicsinstitute@yahoo.com">greeneconomicsinstitute@yahoo.com</a>>)<br>
> > and Volker Heinemann; they could probably suggest further economists<br>
> > supportive of the commons.<br>
> ><br>
> > Another economist who you could add is Julie Matthaei - she's a feminist<br>
> > economist, involved in the US Solidarity Economy Network. I don't think<br>
> > she's published on the commons per se but she is definitely supportive<br>
> > of the approach. A volume on the solidarity economy she co-edited is the<br>
> > following:<br>
> ><br>
> > *Solidarity economy :*<br>
> > *building alternatives for people and planet ; papers and reports from<br>
> > the U.S. Social Forum 2007 /*<br>
> > Jenna *Allard*; �Carl *Davidson*; �Julie *Matthaei<br>
> > *2008<br>
> > *English* Book Book xiv, 427 p. ; 23 cm.<br>
> > Chicago : ChangeMaker Publications, ; ISBN: 0615194893 9780615194899<br>
> > *Contents:* pt. 1. New visions and models -- pt. 2. Defining the<br>
> > solidarity economy through diverse practices -- pt. 3. Building the<br>
> > solidarity economy through social movements -- pt. 4. Building the<br>
> > solidarity economy through cooperatives and socially responsible<br>
> > business -- pt. 5. Building the solidarity economy through networking<br>
> > and community organizing -- pt. 6. Building the solidarity economy<br>
> > through public policy -- pt. 7. Building the solidarity economy through<br>
> > daily practice -- pt. 8. The birth of the U.S. Solidarity Economy<br>
> > Network -- pt. 9. Appendices.<br>
> ><br>
> > Julie could probably also suggest some more economists to add to the<br>
> > list - her email is "Julie A. Matthaei" <<a href="mailto:jmatthaei@wellesley.edu">jmatthaei@wellesley.edu</a>>.<br>
> ><br>
> > If some more people come to mind I'll let you know!<br>
> > Wolfgang<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > At 02:50 AM 4/19/2011, you wrote:<br>
> >> Dear friends,<br>
> >><br>
> >> with the help of David Bollier, who produced the original list below,<br>
> >> I will start to compile a list of ...<br>
> >><br>
> >> <a href="http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons-Oriented_Economists" target="_blank">http://p2pfoundation.net/Commons-Oriented_Economists</a><br>
> >><br>
> >> thanks a lot for sending suggestions my way; eventual help with bio's<br>
> >> would also be welcome,<br>
> >><br>
> >> who among the Berlin participants should be considered economists and<br>
> >> should be added to the list?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Michel<br>
> >><br>
> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> >> From: *David Bollier* <<a href="mailto:david@bollier.org">david@bollier.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:david@bollier.org">david@bollier.org</a>>><br>
> >> Date: Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 8:58 PM<br>
> >> Subject: Re: Article in Financial Times<br>
> >> To: Michel Bauwens <<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a><br>
> >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:michelsub2004@gmail.com">michelsub2004@gmail.com</a>> ><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> Michel,<br>
> >> Here's my top-of-mind list of commons-oriented or -friendly economists:<br>
> >><br>
> >> Josh Farley, U. of Vermont (ecological economics, community development)<br>
> >> Robert Costanza, U. of Oregon (a leading ecological economist; not<br>
> >> sure of commons-orientation)<br>
> >> James Boyce, UMass Amherst (ecological economics)<br>
> >> Nancy Folbre, UMass Amherst (feminist economics/caring economy)<br>
> >> Gerald Epstein, UMass Amherst (cooperatives)<br>
> >> Katherine Gibson, Australia (community economics; former writing<br>
> >> partner with the late Julie Graham, a.k.a.,<br>
> >> � � � � J.-K. Gibson-Graham)<br>
> >> Elinor Ostrom, Arizona State & Indiana U. (commons; not an economist,<br>
> >> but she might as well be)<br>
> >> Wolfgang Hoeschele, Truman State University, Missouri (Solidarity<br>
> >> Economy, commons)<br>
> >> Sam Bowles, Santa Fe Institute (economics as seen through complexity<br>
> >> theory & evolutionary sciences)<br>
> >> Yochai Benkler, Harvard Law School (digital commons; not an economist,<br>
> >> but he might as well be)<br>
> >> Peter Barnes, Pt. Reyes Station, California (former entrepreneur;<br>
> >> commons; Sky Trust) *<br>
> >> David Korten, author<br>
> >> Richard Norgaard, UC Berkeley<br>
> >> Wolfgang Sachs, Wuppertal Institute, Germany<br>
> >> Herman Daly (?), perhaps too economistic and not commons-oriented<br>
> >> enough, based on a brief encounter with him.<br>
> >> Association for Georgist Studies (the Henry George crowd)<br>
> >> E.F. Schumacher Foundation: �hosts annual lecture series that often<br>
> >> includes iconoclastic economist-types<br>
> >> New Economics Institute: �Schumacher spinoff with ties to New<br>
> >> Economics Foundation in UK, which aspires<br>
> >> � � to develop alternative economic approaches. �A more nominal than<br>
> >> real project because it has so little money.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Peter Barnes hosted a small retreat of commons-oriented economists in<br>
> >> Santa Barbara 5-7 years ago. �He would be worth consulting if we ever<br>
> >> try to do something in this area.<br>
> >><br>
> >> There are probably some other economists or near-economists who<br>
> >> attended the ICC.<br>
> >> -------<br>
> >><br>
> >> David<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
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